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We just fully released the 30 themes we've been working on for 18 months. It's the culmination of our multi-pronged themeing strategy:
ocPortal is-as-it-is because of it's power, flexibility, and scope. We then have to be be really innovative to make all that user-friendly, and I believe at this point we have been extremely successful in realising this. Other software may be simpler, but in more sense than one. Looking nicer out of the box also means making design assumptions that are probably completely tangential to what any particular site wants. Interfaces that spell out exactly how to do things can only do this because they spell out exactly what you can do. If I answered something that you think should be in the documentation, please take the initiative and add it to the community documentation. We really need people to help out here and build a well-organised large support resource. |
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Some might balk at the $99, but I say good on you. Will have to reconsider… |
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Oh, hell…I feel the dark side of my geeky self pulling at me, insisting I go play with an OCP site again (SIGH). I have no control over my evil geeky twin. LOL… Chris: anytime you want to ping me (suggest email), I'd be happy to do what I can to help spnsor V.8. I'm not rich by any means, but I'd like to do whatever I can. Hitch
I always ask myself: WWWWD?, or, "What Would Wonder Woman Do?"
How come we have Yahoo IM, AIM, ICQ, you name it, but no field for Skype contact info? |
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Regarding sponsorship, I remember we talked a lot before about a build-out tool to auto-create complex and deep site structures. Anything like this you want, just let me know and we can discuss getting it sorted. A lot of possible future plans are on the tracker: My View - ocPortal feature tracker If I answered something that you think should be in the documentation, please take the initiative and add it to the community documentation. We really need people to help out here and build a well-organised large support resource. |
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If you can help people to understand the benefits of using ocPortal without being combative and while acknowledging that it is not the right solution for every site, I encourage you to explain how ocPortal has helped you create your web presence on these referral sites. Bob |
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If it causes even a dozen people to take a look at ocPortal I will consider it a net win.And I encourage other ocPortal users to post their comments to balance things out. Sadly, it seems a bunch of people post when they are doing "best of" type ratings. It would be much better to see a steady flow of comments pointing out ocPortal's many strengths even acknowledging areas which need improvement. Bob |
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Yes; I'd looked at OCP seriously for two websites; an equine community, which required boatloads of sub-categorization (by breeds/disciplines) and I think, but am not sure, that that was an issue (this was four years ago now); and I looked at it to revamp another very old website we have that has reviews…and I think the issue was that although I could use the catalogs (CEDI? Am I recalling that rightly) for the items, there was no way to link articles (reviews) and ratings to those catalog items. I would have a similar issue now, with Booknook, as I have to be able to link the books we produce to their authors (authors->books is a one to many) and books by production method (usually a one->one relationship), which could be done with categorization, which is what I did with the existing EE site. I always found your quoted rates super-reasonable; it was just that when everything was considered, OCP wasn't suited for those two sites, and probably isn't suited for Booknook, which has had a ton of work put into it and grows to the tune of 50 books and usually the same number of authors per week, plus the odd article hither and yon. My big complaint with it right now is that it has a seriously out-of-date wiki module that just sucks, and it doesn't have a Gallery, which is killing me. Overall, though, it's not a bad product; I just don't love the people, and as I mentioned before, their attitude is if you're not doing a $5K site, you're not worth the bother. That's no secret–and they positively have contempt for we "do-it-yourself'ers" who are not professional web developers. BUT, I really would love to sponsor some development for OCP. Truly. Hitch
I always ask myself: WWWWD?, or, "What Would Wonder Woman Do?"
How come we have Yahoo IM, AIM, ICQ, you name it, but no field for Skype contact info? |
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If I answered something that you think should be in the documentation, please take the initiative and add it to the community documentation. We really need people to help out here and build a well-organised large support resource. |
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Tracker item Forum discussion Who else can chip in? Bob |
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Come on people, perfect opportunity to make the case for whatever features you think are most missing. If I answered something that you think should be in the documentation, please take the initiative and add it to the community documentation. We really need people to help out here and build a well-organised large support resource. |
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As for 'tweaks' to the current system, I am generally happy with the functionality as-is, and work around any perceived shortcomings the best way I know how. If I can't, I usually shout for help in here! If more robust or 'slicker' responses are forthcoming from the functionality that is being addressed on the tracker I will probably use it (them) and offer a quiet word of thanks to those more knowledgeable than I.
Take my advice. I'm not using it!
View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal |
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Two other tracker features have jumped out at me. Item 137 seems like it could both unify the code and the feature set for site owners. I am all for this kind of improvement. I also think item 269 would be very a valuable improvement. The ability to tie catalogs together could provide some interesting usage possibilities for site owners. Can you maybe hint at the scope of what you plan with this item? Localization should also support date and time conventions. I'd like to see the sitemap.xml generated as a guest user. While it is true that it does no harm (I've researched this pretty thoroughly in the last few days), it nonetheless creates errors in the crawler access that need to be run down, not to mention that it causes needless crawling which utilized resources better spent elsewhere. Since this is also current in another thread, I would say that it is important that ocPortal be always conscious of what the search engines complain about in Webmaster tools. Like it or not, they are the gatekeepers and anything to do that appeases them is of value. It might make the difference between being seen on the first page or not. EDIT: Add the Google +1 code to the MAIN_SCREEN_ACTIONS block - +1 is not going to go away. That is, at least, a few things that I think would improve ocPortal. I'll try thinking of some more. Bob
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Fletch expressed my sentiment exactly! I've been too busy using those features on my sites, making themes which would highlight this wonderful software and spreading the word through my teaching in class and on the Internet, then to afford the time to get bogged down by what I consider a few quirks in the system. I judged them to be rather insignificant in the scheme of things and found ways to go around them. I have reported the more stubborn ones, which were always fixed to my satisfaction. However, I can appreciate the need for the creators to get a better analytical feedback than what I can give and therefore I support what others are trying to accomplish by adding their suggestions to the tracker system. |
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I am pretty sure that everyone here has at least one wishlist item for ocPortal. Here is your chance to express that wish which helps Chris determine which items are most important to merge into the developers' own plans for the project. Don't miss an opportunity to help Chris with understanding what areas could use improvement, no matter how small. You are actually help Chris more by identifying something than saying "all's well". If all's well, Chris and the team can disband - their work is done. Just my thoughts. Bob |
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It's not that the sitemap isn't generated by guest, it's that these aspects aren't controlled by page permissions so the sitemap generator can't tell the code itself is going to trigger it's own internal "access denied". Never-the-less, I did just remember there's a way we can workaround that without making a mess, so that will come with the next patch release (it's the same thing we do to stop the 'logout' link coming up in the sitemap – we avoid reporting certain entry points for Guests).
Just added a tracker issue for this. If I answered something that you think should be in the documentation, please take the initiative and add it to the community documentation. We really need people to help out here and build a well-organised large support resource. |
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If I answered something that you think should be in the documentation, please take the initiative and add it to the community documentation. We really need people to help out here and build a well-organised large support resource. |
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Sincerely! There must be something I can contribute to help the cause, so I shall go away and do some head-scratching.
Take my advice. I'm not using it!
View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal |
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Ahh..I had not considered the permissions issue which I am sure complicates matters significantly. But, as usual, you have deftly crafted a solution. I look forward to using this when it is releases.
Thanks for this. I've already worked my way around this with help from Harry-S but I think it will be good to add an official implementation. Bob |
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Chris- Are the six items listed under catalogs all foundational to achieving your v* goals? That is, does completing these improvements now make it easier to complete your design goals in v8? Bob |
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