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Hi all,

We've had a growing group of users with visual impairments so I thought it would be a good idea to create this support forum.

I hope this forum can help us in a few ways:
  • We can discuss how ocPortal can be further improved for accessibility
  • It can provide an environment where people will understand user needs better up-front, and hopefully they won't reply with pictures or other inappropriate awkward responses ;).
  • It provides an opportunity for sharing expertise between visually-impaired users. Using software through a screen-reader requires a level of patience that most sighted users won't be used to, and it involves perceiving ocPortal from a different perspective. Regrettably the developers (i.e. people like me) don't always time to give patient answers, or the insight, but I hope by creating this area we can widen things up a bit.
  • It underscores that ocPortal is a good system for talented visually-impaired users, helps reinforce the culture for this here, and I hope make you all feel very welcome.
  • And, I hope it means ocPortal can be embraced by more visually-impaired people when they see that we have a culture and support system here already :).
I've been very impressed by the numerous blind/partially-sighted people I've talked to over the past year or so. One thing I think we all struggle with is finding the right balance between respecting the independence of talented people, against the need to sometimes give an occasional helping-hand when things are found to be a bit of a struggle. I hope we can all talk directly in here so we all can understand what's easy and what's hard and create the right mix of independence and community.

One thing I think it's important for us to understand is there is diversity here. Of course, we don't just have screen-readers, we also have screen-magnifiers and Braille readers. And of course some people were born with visual impairments, while others developed them later on, and that's going to really affect the experience people have with their assistive technology. Some people are completely blind, some people have other visual issues. So there's lots to consider, but I think also a lot in common.

Okay, that's all I can think to write for now :). Feel free to add your voice!


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I will be a lurker here trying to get a better understanding of the needs involved and how ocPortal addresses those needs. Though my site is about art and images, we are doing a lot of history on the artist and have already employed audio interviews and are looking for other ways to make the site useful to as many people as possible (this is rather important as a significant part of the visitor population is on in years and has to deal with some of these issues).

Bob
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Hi all,
Guess I'll be the first to post about this, lucky me!
My name is Dominique and I'm a blind computer user who uses a screen-reader called JAWS.
(Job Access With Speech)
a screen-reader made by a company called Freedom scientific.
I'm the guy who wrote the instructions on the key map for screen-reader users who use JFW.
also known as "JAWS for Windows".
I'm glad Chris allowed me to add them to Ocportal!
At the time of writing those, he was also in my site via FTP helping me out with things, such as accessibility patches and bug fixes.
This was in 6.0.
Might I just go ahead and put out there Chris that I've been telling people around about Ocportal and you, and your team and have been saying stuff like

Dominique said

You have to check out Ocportal! It's awesome!
and some times as far as,
checking out my site, and also saying in that that I use Ocportal for the site and that I've been working with you at times to make sure some things were accessible.
Or rather test things to see how they work.
I just want to say that I do love Ocportal, and all of the features it offers, and wouldn't recommend anything less for a CMS for someone to use.
Chris,
here's something that I've found that can work good for accessibility.
I'm still learning how to do it, but maybe you can do it for some parts of Ocportal, (Most important parts) of sites.
There called landmarks. If you could put navigation landmarks in most parts of templates like the "main" section and "footer" or something like that it could help people who use screen-readers, and also the ones that support them, which I believe most do, can use them.
NVDA does I think, and I know JAWS does, you can navigate by landmark with the ";" key when not in a edit box whilst in a HTML document. I just tried it on this page and JAWS reported "No landmarks.". Think of those at some point?
Comcode is also a peac of work itself
It's some what hard at times but I love it.
Also, Chris, can you send me the Comcode manual again? I do not have it anymore.e Think it got lost in harddrive crash or so when I got it back, it was reformatted or something, so I had to take the hole day, and re install JAWS,
Freedom Scientific - JAWS Headquarters
Sonar from
Cake Walk
CakeTalking from Dancing Dots
JAWS scripts that allow JAWS to work with Sonar, and other SoftSynths that I had to re install!
Yes, I'm a recording artist/producer also.
:d.
But I am a geek too, hehehe.
Soon I will have my other site up and then I'll link it here for you guys to se.

Dom
website
is called
Muztech Community
and is run with Ocportal.
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Good to see you here Dominique :).

We're so close to this little initiative working well now – I got both yourself and GodzMuzicIan posting in here, now I just need to get you chatting because I think you have some common goals :D.

I'm going to take a quick look at landmarks now, and see if it is something I can quickly get in there.

Comcode tutorial:
ocPortal Tutorial: Comcode and the attachment system - ocPortal.com


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  • If so, please let others know about ocPortal whenever you see the opportunity.
  • If my reply is too Vulcan or expressed too much in business-strategy terms, and not particularly personal, I apologise. As a company & project maintainer, time is very limited to me, so usually when I write a reply I try and make it generic advice to all readers. I'm also naturally a joined-up thinker, so I always express my thoughts in combined business and technical terms. I recognise not everyone likes that, don't let my Vulcan-thinking stop you enjoying ocPortal on fun personal projects.
  • If my response can inspire a community tutorial, that's a great way of giving back to the project as a user.
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All, I'm an industry analyst and I host a monthly webcast show called CMS Connected (CMS-Connected -- The CMS Industry News Program -- Expert WCM Analysis and Debate). We have our live taping today at 12:30p ET and I'm going to spend a minute or so at the end pointing out the amazing work that Chris and the ocPortal community has done here. I just think it's great how Chris has, within 24 hours, clued into his users'  needs and made such huge strides to make the tool more accessible for all based on a simple recommendation. I doubt our coverage will have much impact, but this (you) truly deserves everyone's attention. Great, great job.

If you miss it live, you'll be able to go to the url above and see it on-demand within a couple days.

Keep up the good work

-@sliewehr
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Great to see you here Scott :)! Anyone who follows CMSs on an enterprise level will know who Scott is.


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  • If my reply is too Vulcan or expressed too much in business-strategy terms, and not particularly personal, I apologise. As a company & project maintainer, time is very limited to me, so usually when I write a reply I try and make it generic advice to all readers. I'm also naturally a joined-up thinker, so I always express my thoughts in combined business and technical terms. I recognise not everyone likes that, don't let my Vulcan-thinking stop you enjoying ocPortal on fun personal projects.
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Scott Liewehr said

I doubt our coverage will have much impact, but this (you) truly deserves everyone's attention. Great, great job.

Keep up the good work

-@sliewehr
Amen!

This could actually be HUGE exposure, and I am really ecstatic that you guys (Chris et al) are attracting the attention you deserve.

GO! CMS Connected. Do a job on this magnificent software!

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Take my advice. I'm not using it!

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It's great to see ocPortal and Chris, especially, get some attention in the CMS world. ocPortal is a magnificent product and Chris  user's dream - always providing a bit more than what we asked for.

Bob
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It's up!

Take a trip to CMS-Connected News Show - March 2012, and if you are really pushed for time (show lasts an hour) you can catch the ocPortal segment around the 54th minute (54:00) in the 'Rapid Fire' section.

Scott is very complimentary about ocPortal, and Chris in particular.

Good one, Scott!

thanks

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Fletch said

Scott is very complimentary about ocPortal, and Chris in particular.

Good one, Scott!

thanks
Well-deserved praise, I think. I was shockedwhen Chris implemented this as quickly as he did. It was almost as if this was already on his to-do list complete with a bunch of notes.

Another congrats to Chris and to ocPortal.

Bob
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