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One of the complements I get on my site and makes it more popular is that I run it for the members not for me. Basically I put their needs above my own.
What this means is listening to feedback and try and make the site where every member can use it.
Just because you like some thing does not mean every one else likes it.
Like side bars for instance a few months back I had the forum with side bars do to the portal having side bars and I liked navigating that way how ever members did not like that.
As soon as I got rid of the side bars the activity went up and the feed back became more positive.
I got feed back about the top menu being too long and making the screen either stretch or part of the menu being on the next line.
I then added drop down menus which also boosted activity and I got more positive feedback about it.
These are only 2 examples but I could go on and on all day with these.

I have noticed that Chris runs This site in much the same way so I am picturing ocPortal being one of the leading cms/ portal systems on the web one day.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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I receive a few complaints now and then from Win98 users as my logo exceeds the browser width and enables horizontal scrolling. Actually, ocPortal itself does the same thing.

Some may say it's a good idea to make a completely compatible site for all computer users, but I don't agree it's essential. Most internet users have at least XP. You can't make something compatible with everything, so the best you can do is make it compatible for most which is what I aim for.

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That is correct Joe, its not really possible to made a website that is looking good to all systems and browsers. For me I go out from the standards like screensize 1024 x 768.
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Joe said

I receive a few complaints now and then from Win98 users as my logo exceeds the browser width and enables horizontal scrolling ….. Most internet users have at least XP.

I don't support your correlation between OS and screen size. If by "Win98 users" you imply that anybody using Win98 is an 'ancient' who hasn't caught up with new technology you may well find that you are quite wrong. However, SOME users of Win98 may well have pretty antiquated equipment and that is the reason that they are still using a screen resolution of 800 x 600. That is their choice (and their loss), but as a web builder you should consider all users and take them into consideration. Perhaps they can't afford to upgrade?


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Some may say it's a good idea to make a completely compatible site for all computer users, but I don't agree it's essential.

You obviously don't consider W3C to be an authoratative body. But, more importantly, the authors of ocPortal have gone to great lengths to ensure that your web pages are 'standards validated' to a very high degree, so it appears you don't agree with their views either.

You should have a re-think, Joe.

Take my advice. I'm not using it!

View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal
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Fletch, that was quite harsh. ocPortal itself isn't compatible with all computers.

I don't see what W3C has anything to do with this topic. We're talking about themes exceeding the browsers width causing horizontal scrolling, we're not talking about making the site scripting-valid.

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Not harsh, Joe, just another 'valid' point of view. W3C is not simply a 'scripting' validation entity; they are concerned about the 'whole' presentation.

For example, your banner exceeding the width, and thereby forcing horizontal scrolling, will also cause screen readers a bit of a problem. So, not only are you causing your '800-viewers' some inconvience, you are also inconveniencing the partially sighted, or the blind, because the whole page display (and content) would need to be scrolled.

The whole issue of 'standards compliance' is both boring and interesting, at the same time. Each of us has his or her own view on the matter. I am willing to discuss the issue ad-infinitum, but not in a confrontational manner.

Be Happy!

Take my advice. I'm not using it!

View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal
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Joe said

I receive a few complaints now and then from Win98 users as my logo exceeds the browser width and enables horizontal scrolling. Actually, ocPortal itself does the same thing.

Some may say it's a good idea to make a completely compatible site for all computer users, but I don't agree it's essential. Most internet users have at least XP. You can't make something compatible with everything, so the best you can do is make it compatible for most which is what I aim for.
 
I am not disagreeing with that. Its not possible to make every one happy.
I even have games that can not be played by members who have other computers as the browser does not support the game and there is nothing I can do about that.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Any way what this is about is listening to your members and making a site the most enjoyable as you can.
You can not make every one happy as Chris pointed out at one time when he was saying that he used to consider all features until he found it did not work.

You have to take every thing into consideration and make it so as good as you can get.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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correct   :)
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Fletch, for someone who is so concerned about making a perfect website for everyone, you sure aren't so keen on making yours XHTML valid; not to mention you're placing a valid XHTML 1.0 transitional logo on your site when it really isn't valid.

You might want to fix that. :)

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Speaking of validation, why don't you take a look at this while you're at it:

Anglo-Indian Portal - Donations to Charity

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Thanks for spending some of your valuable time to validate my site, Joe.

I'll fix the errors ASAP!

Take my advice. I'm not using it!

View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal
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