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I'm trying to get more people interested in city council

Here is my site:  huberresidents.org



Anyone know the common mistakes that makes this program take so long to load? I can see this official site looks a lot like what I've downloaded and it is quick. However, my site is painfully slow.


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456 sites on that same server.

That works if the server is not hosting web applications, but otherwise it's totally unrealistic.


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Thanks,

 One of the things that made me ask here vice going to the web hosting company first is that folders that hold portions of my website that were built in a 2003 version of Frontpage loads quickly.  Of course that portion of the site is based on tables not CMS or PHP

I suspect the ocPortal site is an example of "web applications" and the web applications run slowly without effecting the other web pages?
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I do like the speed of this site and see great potential in my site if I can get it to work as well.
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HTML pages made in Frontpage run quickly because they are basically just text files that your computer does all the hard work interpreting.

ocPortal is a very sophisticated piece of server-side technology. For every page loaded it has run multiple queries and calculations. Complex features like permissions, themes/templates, security, forums, statistics, and chat all require a lot more processing time than a static HTML page would require. So because of this computational work that must be carried out on the server before the HTML is outputted to your browser, you'll find that performance might be poor on a very slow or overcrowded server.

With web hosts, the more you pay, the better your service will be. If a web host is very cheap, then it's likely that they will be overcrowding each of their servers with hundreds of other websites. It would be like trying to run 50 games at once on your computer.


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Thank you,

I see on the ocPortal Administration page a checklist item "Set up Scheduler", which I appearently have not done correctly.  Also, on my webhosting account I have a page that suggests I should set up my php.ini file.  In the intro to this it states:  To ensure that your PHP scripts work smoothly, please refer to the following information before you get started:
  • Path to your Web document root: /home/users/web/b1017/ipg.huberresidentscom
 This is important, as most of your scripts will need to specify this location. For example, this is required if you'd like your PHP script to upload files.
 I see these items as related and I am pretty sure I have not used this information correctly.  Could this be a reason my site loads so slowly?
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The PHP.ini file on my webhosting site is 37 pages long when copied and pasted into MS Word.  However, most of the items appear to be commented out (;).  There is on cron references but I do not see it being related to the scheduler:

[Syslog]
; Whether or not to define the various syslog variables (e.g. $LOG_PID,
; $LOG_CRON, etc.).  Turning it off is a good idea performance-wise.  In
; runtime, you can define these variables by calling define_syslog_variables().
; PHP: Runtime Configuration - Manual
define_syslog_variables  = Off


 
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Not having the scheduler set up should not adversely affect your sites performance. The bulk of the work happens on demand.

What Chris & Robbie mentioned are the most likely causes (i.e. you are on an over-sold/loaded server and your previous site was effectively a static site, so it was not an issue before).

You may want to double-check your ocPortal cache setting in the Caches section of Admin Zone Setup Configuration Site options.

You should already have the following checked:

  Block cache    
  Template cache
  Comcode page cache
  Language cache


As processing/database usage seems to be the main problem you might try enabling File-system caching to reduce the load.

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You guys are great for responding.  I beleive you are probably correct with the hosting package being cheap.  But since I still don't have a lot of understanding of the setting for your program it makes sense to me to make sure I get those right before I look to spend money on an upgrade for my hosting plan.
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The default setting for ocPortal are very efficient and it should not be this slow.

Why don't you try contacting you host first. They may be able to move you over to a less congested/more appropriate server.

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Couple items:  When I originally set up the site I allowed 400 users at a time - which is a goal.  I changed that back to 70.  Not sure if that could have been an issue but the site is better this morning.

Also, in Google chrome the news portion does not display in the middle "frame" but waits until it has the full width available after the side bars are out of content.
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Tom McMasters said

Couple items:  When I originally set up the site I allowed 400 users at a time - which is a goal.  I changed that back to 70.  Not sure if that could have been an issue
I doubt it very much unless you were previously getting hundreds of simultaneous users.
 but the site is better this morning.
That's probably just a coincidence. Performance will very depending on what is happening on the other sited on the same server.

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I so much wish I could stay with using our program.  I absolutely love the layout and the features.  However, upgrading to a non-shared server is too expensive especially since I host both www.mcmasters4congress.com and www.huberresidents.org with the same webhosting plan but when I go to Pingdom Tools it tells me my website takes 22 seconds to load and is slower than 92% of all tested sites and when I go to Pingdom Tools it tells me it takes 3 seconds to load and I'm faster than 55% of all other websites tested.

Just the same - do you have just a galleries module I could install in a folder and then reference from the main website?  If this is not available already stand alone how would I go about getting a quote for having that created?
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The vast majority of users are hosted on a shared server, you just need to be on one that doesn't suck ;). Load times on a decent server will be under one second, assuming the caches haven't been disabled.


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I changed the start page by deleting the pic of day and the survey.  Load times are down from 20 sec to 6 seconds at least tonight.  

ipage is cheap but generally gets excellent ratings here in the states.  Of course, their tech rep also thought the speed issue was at least in part due to the shared server aspect.  With both of you in agreement I should believe it - but I still wouldn't be surprised if I somehow messed up a setting or two.  
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Tom McMasters said

ipage is cheap but generally gets excellent ratings here in the states.  
It might just be the specific server you are one.

Tom McMasters said

With both of you in agreement I should believe it - but I still wouldn't be surprised if I somehow messed up a setting or two.  
That will be very easy to test.

Just install a fresh copy of ocPortal in a test directory and see how it performs.

Then add a pic of the day and a survey and see what kind of a difference that makes to the performance.

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I have recreated (most) of the site with a different webhosting company.  Today there are only 24 other sites on this server and the site works very fast with alot more features installed.  Wonder how long they can keep this site up with so few others on the server?  I doubt they would be covering costs with less so few per machine.

The page currently doesn't render correctly at work - pages build linearly - but this may be because of the blue coat filter.

Both versions are still available  huberresidents.org  and huberresidents.com/residents/
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Both versions are still available  huberresidents.org  and huberresidents.com/residents/
The first one loads like lightening. The second one takes an eternity, but eventually pops into focus and doesn't look bad. Trying to navigate to 'Social' from that page repeats the 'treacly' process.

Make of that what you wish …!!

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Site Welcome to the Residents of Huber Heights Ohio - tfm Publishing is loading really fast for me. Good Job!
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For me to!!  :thumbs:


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