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Well yes,

kinda nice software I suppose, wonderful attention to detail and presentation of the Admin section, but this simply does not work in any way I want it to…

Example - Are there no comments for postings?

Why can I not simply drag the web page elements to the position I want them (eg. sidebars, calenders,etc)?

Allow any member to simply add a text entry with a picture or video… I don't care if they are authors or not…

I cannot envision any possible use for this software - nice, but unusable.
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You obviously have not spent much time exploring it before criticizing it.  
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XTC said

.. kinda nice software I suppose, wonderful attention to detail and presentation of the Admin section, but this simply does not work in any way I want it to…
I guess you haven't wasted any of your valuable time, and will continue looking for something else, then? But nice of you to drop in and say so!

XTC said

Example - Are there no comments for postings?
Have you actually installed it? I suspect not, or you wouldn't have made this asinine comment …

Good luck with your quest, but don't tilt at the windmills that are low enough to get to you!

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Take my advice. I'm not using it!

View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal
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XTC said

Well yes,

kinda nice software I suppose, wonderful attention to detail and presentation of the Admin section, but this simply does not work in any way I want it to…

Example - Are there no comments for postings?

Why can I not simply drag the web page elements to the position I want them (eg. sidebars, calenders,etc)?

Allow any member to simply add a text entry with a picture or video… I don't care if they are authors or not…

I cannot envision any possible use for this software - nice, but unusable.

Happy to oblige. I take it you work in venture capital and would like to forward $10 million dollars for us to work on these features :lol:.

I certainly agree drag and drop would be nice, but these things aren't easy, and the main reason ocPortal does not (yet?) have it is the systems that do all do it and lose the important ability to get fine-grained control in the process (honestly, none of the client jobs we do could be achieved in the kind of control these systems allow).

As for allowing any old entries from people, ocPortal doesn't try and be a Facebook clone. We're quite clear we're a tool for creating structured websites :).


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Dang… I cannot create another "Facebook" style site with ocPortal?

Well then…



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Eric DeMars . com
My electronic portfolio and personal site. Uses ocPortal!
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Example - Are there no comments for postings?

Really? *looks confused as he pokes his finger at the leave a comment screen* I wonder what this is then? Not the same thing you are talking about?

Comments can be left for news posts, blogs, pictures, videos, etc in ocPortal. It uses OCF primarily to do this, creating a comment thread within the forum for each on site comment left, and comments can vbe viewed where they are left or if you have it viewable to everyone, in the forum or both.

Why can I not simply drag the web page elements to the position I want them (eg. sidebars, calenders,etc)?

If ocPortal had this function, I'd stop using it. I want greater control where my site elements are, and drag and drop is in my experience from having used such things, aggrivating to use.

I cannot envision any possible use for this software - nice, but unusable.

ocPortal isn't made to be for everyone. Then again neither is Joomla, Drupal, and the like. ocPortal may not fit your needs but to say it's unusable is just not true. I have many uses for ocPortal, and I have yet to find a CMS that is usable for my needs other than ocPortal.

Legends of Nor'Ova: A site powered by ocPortal; home of the Legends of Nor'Ova tabletop RPG wiki and community.

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"Those who want help should first be willing to give help."
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Look what I found laying around…

Wonder if I can put it to good use on ocPortal!!

Troll Spray

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Eric DeMars . com
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Ermmmmm…

Casually mentioned this thread to the wife who came across and looked at the screen, and then commented, "So you guys are the ocPortal rocks and you've been hurling them at that poor Troll."

Didn't get it at first … but had a look under our avatars, and I guess she got it right the first time!

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Take my advice. I'm not using it!

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Arch, this was my change  and I missed him/her. This software must be exactly what he was looking for….
I told nobody before because before you know it we got another hoax on hand, but I'm working (you know: thinking, typing and cutting cheese for my mouse) on a very special addon for the intelligent visitors of ocPortal. I planned to bring it out on March, maybe the start of april this year.

It's a very special webbuilder and if I say special I mean very very special. One has to addapt it's computer and get a special sort of mouse, remove the keybord and monitor and let this golden peace of software do the work. At the start one has to go to the kitchen to make lots of cheese cubes, no no no, don't eat them, you have to make you're own dinner, there for the mouse, I explain later.
Then back at the screen we put a nice softgreen color on it so thats to ease the eyes. Then some warm music in the player (depends what kind of site you want) so you will be calm, take a deep breath and look at the screen and start the program.
You see somewhere in the middle a button, no there is no text on it, if you watch carefully you can see that there no letters or any texts on the screen, so you don't have to … (you sit stable and comfortable? Yes? ok here is the word…) read. So you look at the button and hit it, I know it's work, but something has to be done to get the thing started you see?
Now the program start designing first. We start with a square. Now the cheese comes in handy. Put 4 cheese cubes in the form you want to create. Now let go the mouse….
You see, before you know it the mouse rushes away and eat the cheese while drawing a square. You see all done without that pernicious reading and typing and thinking.

Well I think you got the idea of what happens next, but I have no time left now as I have to cut new cheese cubes, so see you at the latest in the beginning of April when I launch this thing and maybe have a movie or so to explain further.

Greets Puran (hmm, good cheese this time….)

21-7-1955 - 24-10-2011 I hope she rest in peace and I hope to see you soon.  Puran
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Fletch said

 "So you guys are the ocPortal rocks and you've been hurling them at that poor Troll."
 
LMAO that was classic! I read that and I just couldn't stop laughing.
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clark71822 said

I read that and I just couldn't stop laughing.
This is my second time around in the marriage stakes, Clark, and I found a gem that I can laugh WITH.

She also corrects my English - constantly - and she is Portuguese.

Go figure!

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Drag and drop isn't in a usable state in browsers IMHO. I've worked on a project that would be much easier with drag and drop, but I specifically went out of my way to avoid doing it because DnD is in such an immature state.

This decision was proven correct when I was on the HTML5 Rocks site and their drag and drop example forced me to reboot my computer! The issue seems to be that clicking and dragging can mean lots of different things to the browser (dragging images out of a page to save them, dragging to select text, dragging to scroll the page (especially on mobiles), dragging scrollbars, drag and drop controls, etc.) and it got confused about what it was meant to do and ended up "picking up" something that it couldn't "drop", and since the browser takes control of the keyboard and mouse during drag and drop there was no way for me to kill Firefox without using SSH. So I rebooted.

Also, as Eben Moglen says, we've developed sophisticated languages for communicating rich concepts to our computers, but then hide these behind a caveman-style "point and grunt" interface.
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