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Dedicated IPs: how important are they to you?

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Howdy,

I'm mulling over some changes, and I'm eager to solicit some general opinions.  I've always made sure, until now, to make sure that any site that I've got has a dedicated IP.  However, I don't do any online sales.  I'd like to one day, but that's for the future.  So for now, is there any reason to want dedicated IPs?  What's your opinions?

Thanks!

-Aaron / PoliticalVoice

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The only advantage to a dedicated IP I know of is discretion. If someone looks up the IP of your domain name, and then does a reverse lookup on that IP, they might be able to find out other domains on the server (but they might be able to do that anyway!).

If you had a dedicated server, a dedicated IP would be a natural extension of that, and would make various other things possible (like running additional types of server that work purely via IP address, not domain name).


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For the way i use webservers i dont think it is that important, i only have the websites on there, and thats it.
Aslong as there is no trouble with the resolving of the domain i dont really mind it.

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Chris and LeonK have summed it up pretty well IMHO. If you are just serving up websites/pages from a server, there is no real need to have any more IP's other than the one assigned to your box by your host/co-lo provider. You may bump into a client requiring dedicated IP for SSL stuff, but that bridge can be crossed when needed.

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Oh, I didn't sum it up as well as that. SoccerDad makes a good point: you need a dedicated IP to use SSL (HTTPS).


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Glad that i have a dedicated IP on my box.. Sometimes it changes, but thats only due to me slurping up serve resources, so they have to get me a new box to fullfill there contract.

:D  Dont shoot the messenger!!  :D

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Wow, thank you all for the replies!  I have been around only sporadically, and I had forgotten about this thread.  However, when I remembered it and checked it out I was really very pleased to see the information that you all had kindly left here.  Thanks!  I think that I can safely say that selecting a new host won't ride heavily on whether they provide  any dedicated IPs; it just doesn't seem worthwhile for what I'm doing.

All the best!

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Hola Aaron!

Here are some things to look for when host hunting:

  1. Do they have some uptime records that you can see? The only real thing that site visitors are interested in (from a technology point of view) is whether your site is up or not.
  2. Multiple connections to the 'net. More than one way home, while not a requirement, is a nice feature.
  3. Does the host support the backend technologies that you need? PHP, MySQL, etc.
  4. Can you get a hold of the 'hoster' if emergencies arise and what is their response time?
  5. Do they have a control panel and/or installation software for other packages? This is also not necessary, however, it's nice to be able to focus on your site and not having to spend truckloads of time screwin' around if you'd like to make additions/modifications.
  6. Are you getting value for your $$$? Shopping on price should NOT be a main focus in decision making. Regardless of the pricing, you must feel that you are getting "bang for the buck".
  7. How long has the company been in business? *grin*, that question should be standard when looking for any service type.
  8. Never let a hosting company force you to allow them to register your domain on your behalf. One should always take care of that in the event that the company disappears.

I run my own hosting company, however, my personal principles prevent me from flogging my business in this forum. I mention this just to let you know that I have some experience in this area.

Best of luck in your search and I hope this helps!
Be well, SD

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