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Need to be widened!

I was sure we discussed this before and I even thought Chris fixed it but I went to use the site bookmarks here again and notice they are fairly narrow again. so in case I  imagined things or in case they were once corrected and a web gnome got into things I would point out that they are kinda narrow and it would be nice if they were widened. Also for the record – "Add Folder" would be more intuitive than "N/A" ;)
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I'll add some CSS to stop it being too narrow in v8.

As for N/A, one could argue that. A "New folder" choice for an "Existing folder" setting isn't logical. There are things we could do to improve it I'm sure, but…

to be honest it's likely the bookmarks feature will be dropped at some point. It used to make some sense, but now browsers/operating-systems either have 'cloud' bookmark sync features built in, or you can use X-marks across all your computers and browsers. Either way, it is much tidier and more integrated than having each site store it's own bookmarks in a non-standardised way, and having to have them represented in the site design.


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I have to agree with Chris on this one.

Back in the day, having site book marks was just awesome as it was transferable across browsers and computers.

Now days though, I can easily book mark this particular post, in this very thread, within my browser; store it within say the ocPortal Site bookmark folder that I can create on my bookmark bar if wanted, and through the magic of dropbox/ubuntuONE/xmarks/opera UNITE/ etc… I would be able to use that book mark anywhere and everywhere.

That kind of removes the usefullness factor of the ocportal bookmark tool.

However, may I suggest that instead of dropping the utility completely, you make it available as an addon for those who still want it?

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I kind of disagree, mythus.

I use the bookmarks all the time in the forums but I could just as easily bookmark stuff in my browser.

I'd like to see Chris spend time on the things that will move ocPortal forward rather than being concerned about a lot of legacy support. I am sure there will be other things that I will be less happy to lose but I think ocPortal's real successes lie ahead and not in the legacy code.

So, I'm am now going to go and create browser bookmarks for the items I have bookmarked in ocPortal.

Bob
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LOL you are more than free to disagree, but the reason I am respond is that it sounds more like you agree.

me, the condensed version: ocPortal bookmarks is no longer needed as much, it's old code for a day when it was useful, so it could be dropped; just please consider allowing it to be an add on for those who may want it

Having it demoted to add-on status doesn't mean that ocProducts has to deal with legacy cruft. Instead, they'd just deposit the code bits into a repository or whatever, and let whoever community developer that wants to maintain, work on, and support as an add on do just that.

So in final thoughts, it looks like we both say the same thing. I just add that it may be a good idea to let it become an add on instead of just disappearing completely :).

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Well, yes, in those terms we agree.

It's just that I don't want to see Chris and company exerting any effort to maintain this particular add-on code.

Options are good but I like that Chris has seemed to recently developed a laser-like focus that is moving ocPortal along quite nicely. Perhaps I give him too much credit and things are simply developing as a result of paid work, but I think Chris has taken that paid work and created a really great vision of where to take ocPortal next.

But, yes, we agree.

Bob
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It's about embracing synergies to forge good deals for both our clients and ocPortal, being clever with how tasks are implemented (i.e. generalising stuff), putting in very long hours, and generally being an expert juggler :).

Also I'm doing less management now. Clients choose to come to us, rather than us approaching them – and it's leading to much better relationships. Our clients care who we really are and how to get real value from us (rather than thinking we're akin to run-of-the-mill Wordpress scriptors, or considering whole projects to be powered by magic) – and we can structure things in a very positive way for all as a result. I'm enjoying it.


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Chris-

I am so happy and encouraged to hear that things are going well after the dry spell of last summer. It's no surprise to me that clients approach you as they get great value for money and, as word gets out, you have a virtuous cycle.

I guess the need for less management now allows you to focus squarely on the code which will benefit your paid customers and ocPortal users.

My hope in 2012 is that as many users as can find someway to promote ocPortal whether it is writing a review or sponsoring a feature.

To me, ocPortal is ahead of the curve on where open-source projects/products are headed.

Kudos to you.

Bob
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