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What is the difference between low,mid,highrange content?

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Trying to understand permissions.
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based on what you get with a hover over the question mark icon, it seems low is forums, mid is banners, catalogs, polls, and galleries, and high is comcode pages and news.

But I think most of those can be changed/offset by other permissions per page.    I tried to figure it all out a long time ago and it was like a spiderweb.

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From: ocPortal Tutorial: Advanced configuration - ocPortal.com

Privileges allow the assignment of permissions to usergroups via check-boxes. By 'specific' we mean permissions that have a very specific meaning, rather than perform a higher level role of deciding whether something may be viewed.
Broadly, privileges are used to grant things like 'whether a member can access the site when it is closed', as well as to define sweeping permissions for content classes.
Sweeping permissions are there so that instead of making you specify who can control (edit/delete/etc) each/every content-item/type-of-content/category-contents individually, you can specify them by impact-class.
The 'impact' scheme is used to classify content according to its impact to the website and prominence. The following privileges may be set for usergroups for each of adding, editing and deleting content:

    low impact content (things most people will probably not notice, like forum posts, Wiki+ posts, calendar events)
    medium impact content (things most people are likely to notice, like downloads, banners, gallery images and videos, author profiles, catalogue entries, inactive polls, inactive IOTDs, forum topics)
    high impact content (things on the front page, like active poll, active IOTDs, Comcode pages, news, quizzes)
    (for editing/deleting only) only their own low impact content
    (for editing/deleting only) only their own medium impact content
    (for editing/deleting only) only their own high impact content


You can optionally override privilege settings in almost all the places where you may set access permissions. This provides a far greater degree of control but is completely optional, because if you do not choose to do any overriding then the global privileges will be used. You have the power of fine-grained control, and the simplicity of only having to do fine-grained control when you need to set a special case.
Although I know what its trying to achieve, I always have to think hard about it, and I just don't think of content in terms of  low/medium/high. And this is compounded by the fact that there is way (at least no simple obvious way that I can see) to define what's in each of these groups.

And given that you can override these in the permission tree it just causes confusion as you always have to check each item manually (i.e. hover over the info icon) to see what is actually being applied.

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Thanks Guys that helps alot… I think…  O_o  hehe
But no seriously it does thanks! :thumbs:
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And this is compounded by the fact that there is way (at least no simple obvious way that I can see) to define what's in each of these groups.

When setting global privileges hovering over the help icon by them will show what modules use those privileges.


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And this is compounded by the fact that there is way (at least no simple obvious way that I can see) to define what's in each of these groups.

When setting global privileges hovering over the help icon by them will show what modules use those privileges.
Yes that will identify them (as I have mentioned) but you can't define what goes into each group.

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Whoops, misread. Trying to read too many topics too quickly :lol:.


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Chris Graham said

Whoops, misread. Trying to read too many topics too quickly :lol:.
You're not the only one O_o! I've been skimming a lot more lately as well.

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Arbo said

based on what you get with a hover over the question mark icon, it seems low is forums, mid is banners, catalogs, polls, and galleries, and high is comcode pages and news.

But I think most of those can be changed/offset by other permissions per page.    I tried to figure it all out a long time ago and it was like a spiderweb.
I am not very experienced working with forums O_o , so I think I posted a comment on this subject as a new topic when it should really have be a response to this subject…
Here's what I added:
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This may all seem obvious to some, but might help those who tend to work in a quick…perhaps impulsive way. Take heed, Cricket…
This is a complex set of permissions. The variety of choices add tremendous flexible utility to the software, however. To keep this subject organized, I have
  1.     taken screen shots of the permissions page. Take note when you're consulting it to see what date you snapped the picture, and you can see when you've made various changes.
  2.     tend to keep the actual usergroup in 'Edit' mode so I can see what I'm adding to (open in a separate browser tab, of course)
  3.     don't get too stressed about all the decisions, since, at least in my case, where my site isn't open to the public yet (i'm looking forward to a nice 'big bang' when I do my big launch day), most anything can be changed by re-opening the affected areas, ie, 'edit usergroup', privileges, permissions, Usergroup subscription. Rome wasn't built in a day.

I thought my new (fairly complex) site would be done in a week or two, and its probably been close to a month now, but as there is a LOT to learn about this software, and I don't 'speak' comcode fluently, and have mostly a basic understanding of CSS, that a lot of the time I'm learning little bits of code writing whilst learning the ins and outs of the software, plus designing and re-designing my site to incorporate what the software is best suited for, and what I'm able to budget for time and sweat-equity!

I'm hoping the end-result in my site, http://WebMusic-Ed.com will be well worth the time spent. Don't know if any of this will be helpful to anyone, but we're being encouraged to share, so there's my '2 cents'. (tuppence if you're UK)
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ShilakowskyEMS said

… I think I posted a comment on this subject as a new topic when it should really have be a response to this subject …
I responded with my half-a-crown in the other thread.

No matter - I think 'most' peeps read 'most' of the posts!

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not using the permissions page or the global page?
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