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touted feature of 4.2 - how will it work and can we specify our url patters

Question on the SEO urls goodness available as part of the 4.2 release feature set here and here

Will this all happen "auto-magically" were by the systems handles all the rewrites (even if we move content by changing names/titles), we just need to ensure our server is configured to support rewrites?

Or will it require, as it does now, having to maintain the rewrite rules ourselves?

"Use new style short URLs


Use new style short URLs
For power-users only. Whether to use .htm style short URLs instead of the pg/ style short URLs earlier versions of the software featured. You should not enable this option if you have already been using the older style of short-URL, as it will affect SEO. This option only works if your website is on the root of your domain name or you have configured a RewriteBase. In addition, whenever you add a new zone you must make changes to your .htaccess file to include it in the patterns, and you may not use any pages that share the same name as a zone."


Also, will we have the option to specify custom url parameters? so that we can decide how we would like the urls structured for the system?

example, I may want:
/community instead of /forum
/ instead of /site
/blogs instead of /site/news/…
/member/username/… instead of /personalzone/…
etc..


Defining permalinks, particularly for blogs- but possibly throughout, should we choose to change them.



Thx. Looking forward to the response.
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Will this all happen "auto-magically" were by the systems handles all the rewrites (even if we move content by changing names/titles), we just need to ensure our server is configured to support rewrites?

Yes, it's smart. It'll "deprecate" old names if you rename/move, but they'll continue to work. New names are chosen automatically.

Or will it require, as it does now, having to maintain the rewrite rules ourselves?

Well you need to put the default rewrite rules in (and they have changed a bit), but you don't need to write new ones.

Also, will we have the option to specify custom url parameters? so that we can decide how we would like the urls structured for the system?

No.

example, I may want:
/community instead of /forum

Well, I think you can rename the forum zone to community if you want.

/member/username/… instead of /personalzone/…

No, it doesn't work like this. The SEO paths descend from the base zone/module path, it's not like Ruby-on-rails-style routing paths.

Defining permalinks, particularly for blogs

We don't use the term 'permalink', but ocPortal was always like this - a news article has a URL that works permanently. In fact personally I think 'permalink' is an awful term – as the W3C decree, any link should be 'permanent'. The term stems from how people usually read blog posts from a front page that keeps changing (i.e. is not permanent in some sense), which you can set up in ocPortal, but we would consider the main article entry screen to be the location of a news article not the blog front page.


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Excellent responses Chris.

I'm very impressed with the timeliness and thoroughness of you and your teams responses.

Thank you for your professionalism and outstanding support.


Good news all around, even with a few No's  :lol:
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We don't use the term 'permalink', but ocPortal was always like this - a news article has a URL that works permanently. In fact personally I think 'permalink' is an awful term – as the W3C decree, any link should be 'permanent'. The term stems from how people usually read blog posts from a front page that keeps changing (i.e. is not permanent in some sense), which you can set up in ocPortal, but we would consider the main article entry screen to be the location of a news article not the blog front page.

I know that this is an old thread, but it pertains to an issue I have with this.

A link 'should' be permanent, but with the way you are setting up the structure of these links, if I were to change the directory where I store a specific catalog reference (because I might want to reorganize my directory tree), am I right in assuming that all links to that entry from outside sites would no longer work?
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I think you mean category, not directory.

ocPortal will create a new URL and automatically set up a redirect from the old one.


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Thanks Chris,

I was starting to get worried about this since my catalogue structures are getting rather large and complex.
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That just NINJA right there…

Chris Graham said

…ocPortal will create a new URL and automatically set up a redirect from the old one.


AWESOME
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Chris-

Do these redirects appear in ocPortal's redirect list?

Bob
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No, it's a different system.


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