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Are there configuration settings related to Signatures?

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If so where are they?

I have scoured the ocP configs and I don't see any config options that control signatures and I am wondering if I am looking in the wrong place? I do notice when you edit a profile it says max characters 700 for a sig. Is that hard coded or is it configurable?

I am inquiring because in working on an importer I need to know what settings to import from the other system.
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Ahhh Thank You! One more question sorry.

In SMF there are several configuration options  allowed for signatures from max allowed characters to max allowed lines and image dimensions, smileys etc.

None of these rely apply to ocP except the max characters (well image is covered under main configs for images I suppose), however, there is also one setting in SMF to disable or allow signatures.

So I was thinking if the SMF board has disabled signatures then I should set all ocP groups g_max_sig_length_comcode to "0". Would this effectively disable signatures or does a 0 provide unlimited signature length?
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A zero probably means zero, and nothing special.

I don't think you can disable signatures on a per-group basis since v8, but I'm not sure why you'd want to either. A lot of other forums have loads of options I'd consider of questionable value – hence aren't implemented in OCF.


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I figured as much about the zero but figured I should double check cause for instance in SMF I discovered they have a setting for number of smileys allowed in a signature but they also have a check box to enable smileys. But they only store one value. If enable is not checked the smiley setting is set to -1 if it is enabled you can set the max so if you set 10 then the setting is 10 but if you set 0 (the default) then that means unlimited.

That aside I suppose the one main reason I could see someone wanting to disable signatures is as an anti spam measure. It sometimes happens for a spammer to sign up make numerous post through forums over time and then one day add a signature with spam links that will now be infiltrated throughout dozens of posts. So I dunno?
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The way I see it is if you don't want signatures at all, you can get rid of them. If there are particular member behaviours you don't like, putting up little barriers isn't going to really help - ultimately human moderation is always needed because people can always work their way around things, and context and human judgment/discretion is always a factor. For the emoticon case, people may well use external ones that don't identify as emoticons, or make some huge animated gif that is much worse than a lot of little ones, or make an image full of swear words. For the signature case, it seems unlikely that someone would go from member with lots of tolerated posts, to member who turned into big abuser (it's not something I've seen happen) – but if it happened it'd get picked up by a moderator and sorted quite easily.


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I have seen it happen in other systems and usually the real spammer only has a small number of of minor posts before it happens. Mostly simple replies to other topics like "Nice Work" or such. On other occasions I have had a long time member with 1000's of posts (former admin who left project) who had been in active for a long time come back to change their signature to include links to some new project they are promoting.

But as you say most of the time moderation can catch and sort this out. But I do like ocPortals way of limiting signatures based on groups as that can easily help curb situations like the latter. I could move the former admin to a "Retired" group and set that groups sig character limit to 0 so he can't come back and use our site for link juice (and possible drainage for us).
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I've had a few cases or signature spam. Most were text link and one was a huge oversized image.

As I have notifications set for signature changes I was able to identify them easily.

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On my site new members can't edit their profiles until they advance to the next usergroup. Same with posting. New members must have their posts validated first until they advance or I feel they're safe (whichever comes first). Could be kind of a pain on a busy site. But a busy site would probably have a few moderators to take care of this.

I've also added some required profile fields on the registration page, some free form, some select from a drop down menu.

I've had zero spam or even any spammers trying to register since implementing this last November.

Steve
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