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Fan in training

Ok I,m brand new to OcPortal and I like it a lot, but…. I need help understanding videos in galleries. Is it possible to allow YouTube videos into the gallery ?

This is only an initial point of view but the reason for asking the above is I am not a fan of the current setup for uploading videos. The support is only for a handful of formats, I am limited to 7Mb uploads due to PHP, I don't like the extra hassle of users having to create a correctly sized thumbnail, and I don't like the use of Quicktime and other plugins as people have to download and install them. For example, in testing I uploaded a video, Firefox tells me I need to install a missing plugin and then fails to identify it. Whats an average end user supposed to do ?

I realize this might be easy to say and hard to do but if video support is to be a core feature then something flash based needs to be implemented. I guess this would involve transcoding different video formats and this would put itself outside the scope of this package and would probably demand dedicated hosting so it's not likely to happen, therefore neatly allowing Youtube and Vimeo etc. videos in galleries would solve all the problems.

What do you think ?
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I don't think there is an option for YouTube videos within the gallery itself, but you could possible create something with the catalogues or comcode pages?!

Good idea, tho. Would be nice to use YouTube in the galleries.

Eric DeMars . com
My electronic portfolio and personal site. Uses ocPortal!
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I think this would be an Awesome idea. Many of us do not have a lot of server space or bandwidth. Being able to put our videos on a free service like youtube then adding those YouTube videos into our Galleries would solve that.

I have a site that has a lot of short training and informational videos that are on YouTube. To add them to my Galleries I have to pull then off of YouTube, convert them, then upload them to my site. One of the other problems I have found is that I have not found a way to embed the Gallery videos onto the site pages like you can YouTube videos.

So to conclude, adding this option reduces server storage, server bandwidth and solves the embed problem.


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Rick Henson

OCP 4.3.2 & 5.0.1
PHP 5.2.5
MySQL 5.0.51a
FireFox 3.6.8
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Hi,

I'll weigh in :). Everything you've said makes perfect sense, but I'll comment on where things are now.

You can make a Comcode tag to embed Youtube videos quite easily. There's a video tutorial on that. I see you're making a site where users are submitting videos so perhaps that's a bit hard for them. I think things could be taken further from the video and you could (with some learning) make some Comcode that automatically works out the video ID from the URL so that users don't need to do that part. The other issue is where the Comcode is put, as your users are not likely going to have permission to add Comcode pages. You could add a catalogue, but it would be quite messy to be honest to explain to them that they're having to type in Comcode to place a video on the form for placing videos. It would be possibly to have a catalogue field there for pasting in a YouTube URL instead of using Comcode, but it'd take some work to customise the catalogue's templates to use that properly. But it's achievable with enough time.

The PHP upload limit you have should be workaroundable. Check our FAQ.

Our gallery does support FLV files.

Transcoding to FLV may be a feature in future ocPortal versions, but as you said, it requires it on the hosting (mencoder).

None of the above two things that involve locally-hosted FLVs will auto-generate thumbnails.


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Fan in training

Many thanks for the replies and the support.

Being still at the stage of evaluating CMS software, I am balancing the time taken to learn ocPortal and then code the changes you are talking about, against starting over with another CMS package.

Unfortunately for ocPortal in the time it took for the replies to this thread to come in I tried Drupal and even though I had to add loads of optional modules it does exactly what I wanted with respect to videos. There was even a module "FlashVideo" for local transcoding allowing to create a Youtube like site, and another module that used the clever idea of interfacing between your site and YouTube in the background "Video Upload".

So sorry boys but at least for the minute I have switched camps.

Cam.
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