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ocPortal has been relaunched as Composr CMS, which is now in beta. ocPortal 9 will be superseded by Composr 10.

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I can't install via the OCP Site.

Hi guys,
My cloud host won't accept OCP from here. Not an install problem, just no upload.
Does it auto require SSH?
Would it be any easier if I downloaded the prog and tried to install from my PC with any specific changes in methodology?
Finally, I use Windows 7, but do have VBox as well (running Ubuntu till I switch to Lime a.s.a.c. :-)
Any value in installing on my box? (Speed of development/reaction)

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The copy to hosting feature on ocPortal.com won't necessarily work with all hosts, but transferring the files from the quick installer package should be really easy. Back when we made the hosting copier people were still on dialup modems so home upload speed was an issue.


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Hi Chris,
"Dial-up modems"???  How old is this project? :-)
I would appreciate an answer to the other questions, though.

My access speeds from Oz are so slow, people don't believe it. So I keep regular samples. Not so long ago, only Mongolia was slower than Oz, but they upgraded………


AND we pay the highest rates in the world for any form of communication connection, both by time AND volume....

Which is why my other questions are important.

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Hi himagain,

According to these  stats, you don't seem to be too far ahead from a Dial-up modem. Please forgive my curiosity, but where is this land of Oz you speak of (Australia?)? Are you living far away from a large town?

Not long after explorer Alonso de Ojeda on a trip to the southern Caribbean discovered Aruba in 1499 it was dubbed isla inutíl.  A useless island, as no gold or treasures were found. I now live on this very small island along with about 120,000 other people. It is very small: 19.6 miles long and 6 miles across at the widest point. Yet it has a fairly good system of communication with a reasonably priced Internet at speeds of 10 mbps.

If your Internet is that slow, I highly recommend that you first install ocPortal on your local machine in order to experiment with it at much higher speed and then export your theme as an add-on for an easy new install on your ISP's server when you are satisfied.  You will find my tutorial about this method in the community documentation.  It is easy to use and rewarding as you never have to wait after your ISP while you are in development mode. If you need help or more advise on this, just holler!

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Bonjour Jean,
Thank you for your information which I will pursue post haste.

I also live on an Island, also dubbed worthless by some - only suitable as a convict dumping ground - and to this very day, still is.

Its oldest name is Arkkadyr (or Arcadia) from many thousands of years ago, then a Frenchman recently named it Australia, and it stuck.

I live in what was till recently, a charming fishing village called Caloundra, in S.E. Queensland. Now we have all the worst traits of expansion: traffic lights, parking meters, building heights that laugh at the 4 storey limits, no more fish and we are despised by our rulers in the State capital, as are all country peasants everywhere.
They now have plans to reduce the population here by diverting our water to Brisbane (State Capital) and have us here, drink recycled waste water, recently already made toxic, by adding deadly sodium fluoride to it, just as the rest of the civilised world is removing it.

If only your home was a little higher, I might start thinking about migration.
But this is a VERY big Island, so I'm planning on moving in the near future, "going bush" as we call it, further away from Them.

Our cybernet is Chinese controlled, as is much in this place and the world, today and is deliberately choked at the Asian pipe points. Nobody has explained why, as we already are the most expensive place on the planet for communication charges, both static and volume.
So there are no real options.

Communication is my main stumbling block (aside from money) in a move away and so far we aren't as advanced as Mongolia in this regard.

Thank you for your help,

Cheers!
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Jean said

Hi himagain,

method in the community documentation.  It is easy to use and rewarding as you never have to wait after your ISP while you are in development mode. If you need help or more advise on this, just holler!

Cheers!
Jean

Jean,
Thank you again - for all the work you obviously do for the community!  
Just been to your own Site and was mind-boggled.
Amazing presentations, the combination of artistry and "engineering".

I've only visited the deomonstration Sites and wanted to quickly say how impressed I am with the logical integration of each design.

Not sure if I'm inspired or demoralised, so  for the moment I shall go to the beach for an hour and cognite.   O_o

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Thanks for the kind words, himagain!

I like your sense of humor..." I also live on an Island, also dubbed worthless by some" lol...and what an Island it is!

There are a few of your compatriots here among the most active ocPortal contributors: I think of  Temp1024 a computer scientist, friendly a talented artist and webmaster and others I'm forgetting just now.

ocPortal can seem overwelming at times, but you can count on a responsive community to guide you through the loops. Just try implementing something simple at first and learning from your successes one step at a time.

Cheers mate!
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Hi jean,

At a certain stage of life(=age), the most important thing left after childhood dreams fade, is a sense of humour.  
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There isn't a big community here on OCP, but it seems as tightly knit as Apple users - only much less defensive and friendly  :lol:  
The product is a bit overwhelming - like a kid in a candy shop.
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For me it is a bit more difficult than most as a Stroke (due to wicked living and a lot of "help" from the medical industry), left me with a few professional and lifestyle negatives. My short term memory is now totally unreliable and long term extremely patchy.
Thank the Gods for the Internet! :ninja:

So it is very important that I structure things to be self-operating/perpetuating and nothing fits the needs like OCP that I've seen.
Especially the integrated member-creating(!) Forum side.

I have downloaded the package to my PC and it installed ok via the integrated Bitnami system ( I chickened out and used it as OCP was integrated).
It worked, but unintuitive to me.
I will investigate it further, but on going back and looking at your tutorial on Wamp, it seems far more user-friendly in terms of navigation post-instal. So, I may go back to it - its menu-based support seems very good.

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I have downloaded the package to my PC and it installed ok via the integrated Bitnami system ( I chickened out and used it as OCP was integrated).
It worked, but unintuitive to me.
I will investigate it further, but on going back and looking at your tutorial on Wamp, it seems far more user-friendly in terms of navigation post-instal. So, I may go back to it - its menu-based support seems very good.


My first PC-side ocP install was with Bitnami. It was an impressive all automatic one button install, but like you I felt a bit lost trying to navigate the file system and using MySql.  WampServer is definitely less automatic and you need to pay attention to small installation details, but once set-up, it is more intuitive to use with its well defined menu. It feels just like being connected to an ISP server, except that the file system is right there in your computer. Learning how to install WampServer will serve you well when you need to install ocPortal on your ISP since the steps are nearly identical.  If you decide to install  WampServer, make sure to completely uninstall Bitnami first and clear your browser cache. Also make sure to quit out of Skype before using Wamp (solutions available online).

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himagain said


I have downloaded the package to my PC and it installed ok via the integrated Bitnami system ( I chickened out and used it as OCP was integrated).
It worked, but unintuitive to me.
I will investigate it further, but on going back and looking at your tutorial on Wamp, it seems far more user-friendly in terms of navigation post-instal. So, I may go back to it - its menu-based support seems very good.


My first PC-side ocP install was with Bitnami. It was an impressive all automatic one button install, but like you I felt a bit lost trying to navigate the file system and using MySql.  WampServer is definitely less automatic and you need to pay attention to small installation details, but once set-up, it is more intuitive to use with its well defined menu. It feels just like being connected to an ISP server, except that the file system is right there in your computer. Learning how to install WampServer will serve you well when you need to install ocPortal on your ISP since the steps are nearly identical.  If you decide to install  WampServer, make sure to completely uninstall Bitnami first and clear your browser cache. Also make sure to quit out of Skype before using Wamp (solutions available online).

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Hi Jean,

"Install ocPortal on your ISP since the steps are nearly identical."

***** Looks like this would be necessary - My cheapie Cloud host doesn't want to know about anything not in CPanel stable - advises against OCP et al!

If you decide to install  WampServer, make sure to completely uninstall Bitnami first and <strong>clear your browser cache</strong>. Also make sure to <strong>quit out of Skype</strong> before using Wamp (solutions available online).

***** Came here today to check for just this advice!!

However, will this mean uninstalling the download of OCP itself? Something was/is amiss with the Bitnami install.

As it is the slaves rest day, Just realised it is Sunday - I'll follow the above instructions to the letter and see what eventuates.
An Aside:
I think to get anywhere in the Cyberbog, that OCP itself needs to create a simplified beginner's vanilla structure a'la WPress, that goes on out of the box.

Cheers!
  

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…will this mean uninstalling the download of OCP itself?
I recommend deleting the entire bitnami folder including OCP following the uninstall. There are 2 new versions  of ocPortal: v8.1.3 and v9 beta3. Take your pick. I suggest 9 beta3 for testing the latest innovations it offers. Download the automatic extractor package–Important!

One more tip: During the installation of WampServer, it will suggest using your "default" browser for WampServer. It is important that you pay attention to that section so that you don't inadvertently select IE, unless you want to punish yourself;). You will need to use tools such as Firebug to better understand certain aspects of your website design, so I recommend either Chrome or Firefox as your default browser.

Have Fun!
Jean
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