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It could be I'm missing something.  I'm using the newsletter signup block onandd noticed that when you add an email address you are presented with the message:

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You have successfully signed up to the newsletter. You can change subscription settings
using the following random password we have generated for you:
22865516be
(if you lose this password you can have it automatically reset).

But I see no where where this can be done.  If I go to  our sites newsletter manager there's no link for changing or generating a new password.  If I input the email address and a phoney password it just adds the email address again to the newsletter subscription list.  What am I missing here?
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As this password is not something you ever need to log in with, it isn't something that you would use regularly and thus need to set. It's just assigned to you randomly. It serves to prevent anyone else to change your newsletter (email) subscription settings in the rare event of you wanting to change those. If you subsequently forget the password, you can just have a new one emailed out to you, again giving you access to change your newsletter (email) subscription setting.


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I guess that's what I'm asking.  How do you have a new one sent out to you?

Here's my situation.  Years ago before starting to use ocportal, I used a newsletter subscription manager that did not use passwords that were  associated with the email address.  Each mailing had a link at the bottom that the subscriber could click on and unscribe from my news.  Once I started using ocportal I  kept using the same 3rd party script instead of the newsletter module in ocportal.  Now that our site is growing and the rest of the family now has newsletters I've decided to add the email address from my old list to ocportal. I tried downloading a CSV file of the subscribers and entering the new address that way, but can't ever get it to import.  Guess I don't understand how that works either, so I set up a testpage, used the newsletter clock on it, and started to enter them one by one that way.  When I enter an email address of course there's the message after giving the random email address, since this is not sent out in the welcome email the end user has no clue of their password if they want to opt out of the newsletter.  How do they go about have a new password sent out to them?
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Ah I see.

If you try to change settings using an incorrect password, when you're not logged in as site admin, you'll get a reset link.

However, I can see a number of usability issues here. If you email the CSV you want to import to chris@ocportal.com I'll see why that won't import, and make a few other tweaks, and put it all out as a hotfix.

I can't promise it'll be today as I have something important to get sorted out now, but I'll get it done as soon as I reasonably can.


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Hi Chris, thank you so much for the offer.  I logged out of the site and tried the newsletter subscription manager and sure enough, when not logged in it does exactly as you described, which is good enough for me.  You have such a full plate I hate to ask you to do something when you have so much going on.  I'll just design a welcome email to go out that explains about the password and how to make changes and let it fly.  There's only about 175 to 200 addresses that i need to add so won't take me too terribly long.  Thanks again.
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Hi,

It wouldn't just be for you ;).

These kinds of things are opportunities for addressing small issues we were not previously aware of, it improves things for everybody.


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since this is not sent out in the welcome email the end user has no clue of their password if they want to opt out of the newsletter

Actually, this should be there in the email. It is according to my checks.

I am adjusting the newsletter maintenance form to explain that if you get the password wrong, it'll email a new one. I am also letting people leave the password there blank, for the same effect.


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