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Hi all,

I proposed ocPortal to my client based on its flexiblility and met most of his requirement in theory. I am in the process of deploying and going through a lot and lots of documentation for about two weeks and more. Also have been playing with ocPortal installation locally. So there are some areas I need some help.

Requirement 1
Client needs a community website with subcommunities. New members would join a subcommunity. There should be a way to group the members so that members can join other subcommunity or leave it.
  • Solution 1: Multi site network
  • Solution 2: Multi zone (more suitable)
Requirement 2
There should be a way to create new subcommunity with minimum effort as in 2 steps, most probably a moderator or a admin should do it subject to approval.
  • Define a new subcommunity:
    • Problem: I didnt find a easy way to duplicate a zone automatically say with a default theme. For example while creating a new Zone, there should be an option to copy other zone settings which matches the structure.
    • If M-S-N then there is a lot of configuring to do. Not a good option.
  • Set a specific subcommunity theme
    • Can be done by swapping default with a custom made theme.
The tutorial http://ocportal.com/docs/tut_subcom.htm just mentions the features but relies on exhaustive understanding on ocPortal structure. A new tutorial which shows how to make a subcommunity would help.

Thanks in advance.
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How many subcommunities are you expecting to have? Is there an upper-limit?

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Currently there are four subcommunity to be added to the website… and more will be added as time passes by. We don't have a upper limit.
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What would be the purpose of the subcommunity… what ocPortal features would it use?

If it needs a forum, I think you can create 'clubs' to automate that. Do they really require a whole zone?

You can create new usergroups where other members can apply to join the group via the usergroups screen. Maybe that's what you're looking for?

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Many of the subcommunity will be social organization or education based, requiring

  • Messaging (chat)
  • Calendar for event planning
  • News section
  • Alerts
  • Forum (few may not have a forum)
  • Download section for sharing contents
  • Gallery
  • Tutoring
  • Email summary

I thought of a zone for maintenance perspective and it is easy to apply and maintain custom theme. So each community would have its own theme to stand out.

And yes users from one community may join or leave a community via usergroup. I am still figuring out how user group functions.

Another question just popped in mind.. what if a subcommunity seizes to exist and choose to shut down. Is there a way to turn off a zone in this case? This may happen if it is a nonprofit organization.


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The Multi-Site Network would probably be the way to go then, not Zones. Just a thought. That way they each have their own news, chat, calendar, etc. But they would share the same forums unless you did a "club" based area like mentioned.

And with MSN, you can just close down the site without deleting it.

Eric DeMars . com
My electronic portfolio and personal site. Uses ocPortal!
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Yes Im also thinking on those lines.

Now the question is once I deliver the product, and keep a administrator to manage the MSN, how much of effort would it require to set up a new subcommunity? I think he would messup unless he has a good idea of the architecture of ocPortal. Such as..
  • New install of ocPortal
  • Configuration
  • User roll
  • Zones
  • New theme
Its a huge effort as good as setting up a new website, he should be a part web designer. The client had told me that creation of new subcommunity should be easy such as user fills out a form for new subcommunity attaches a new logo, provides a name, slogan.

Now the easy has to be defined. Luckily he can delete the new install very easily. I didnt find the automated new subcommunity feature in ocportal as the client wanted. Some community websites do provide that feature.

I myself have to install and try out the challenges.
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I think you can create a type of feedback form where the clientelle can do fill out something and the admin will get it. Then set up what is needed and the clientelle can run the site from there.

The only thing however, is that you might want a "head admin" and then "site admin". The one who sets up the MSN would be the "head admin" of course.

That is what I did for a client of my own who offers free subdomain hosting. They use the MSN option and acts as head admin to all subdomains but has admin area as well.

Eric DeMars . com
My electronic portfolio and personal site. Uses ocPortal!
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