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Oh where oh where have they gone

Greetings,

We decided it was time to take advantage of another ocPortal feature, that is the clubs feature. So, we created a usergroup and made it a club, but no club forum appeared where it was supposed to appear. Infact no club forum appeared anywhere. According to what I have read, creating a club usergroup should create a club forum, but this has not been the case, at least as far as we can tell.

I have even went in to see if I can create a forum and have it set to that club group only, but nope.

So my question is, how is this supposed to work? Or is it possible there is an issue going on (but it not reporting an issue)? For informational purposes, I am running 7.1.1.

Thanks in advance!


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I would think there can be many clubs. Let me investigate what is the advantage of using Club oppose to just creating a usergroup. I am also interested in creating memberships/subscriptions.

Can a club = league?
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As I understand it, Usergroups and Clubs are slightly different things. While you can create a Usergroup to be a club, that has a leader, and such, these club usergroups cannot have any special privileges or permissions except over the club forum.

I am wanting to make use of clubs for factions in my RP site. I am planing on using the fact that clubs get their own forum that only members of said club can use, for this purpose.

Subscriptions? You can make paid subscriptions. I have a membership group I created that is called The Nor'Ovan Society, which has a $4.00 a month paid subscription fee on it. This membership group gets nifty bonuses like being able to download the book (and future book releases) at any time and as often as desired. It is basically meant to be there for those who wish the book, or wish to help fund the site. The site itself is free for everyone to use, but the book isn't. The book isn't needed to use the site, but it does enhance your use of the RP since you can use things found in said book.

But anyways, clubs is supposed to create a forum when the club is created, but it is not doing this. At least on my install it is not.

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mythus said

Greetings,

 According to what I have read, creating a club usergroup should create a club forum, but this has not been the case, at least as far as we can tell.

I have used this feature in the past and it behaved exactly as you've described Mythus, but for some reasons as you pointed out, it seems we are missing something O_o , or there is something missing :(
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Greetings,

Hopefully, if that is the case, that this feature is missing something or whathaveyou, this thread will bring that to light and thus this will get fixed and enjoyed by all.

Or if the other is true, that you and I have been unable to make it work simply by our misunderstanding of how to do so, then we will get the answers not only for us, but future users with this issue.

Clubs, as I see it, has been an underused and under-appreciated feature. I think it has real potential to solve many needs, such as making different 'clubs' for different levels of management and support staff, different clubs for different regions, or different clubs for RPG needs such as mine.

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It should be said though, I don't think that any missing functionality was done purposefully. It is just likely that no one has tried to make it work in some time thus the 'bug' if it is one, has remained uncaught.

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Club, as you have described the features, is much more limiting than a usergroup. Create a usergroup, "Club." Usergroups has all the functionality of permissions for pages, forums and product discounts.

It is possibly under utilized because of its limiting capabilities.

If you insist on Clubs, create the club then create a usergroup with the same name as the club. Then include all members of that particular club in that usergroup. You may enjoy the functionality of both clubs and usergroups.


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Caps-

Clubs can still be very useful. For instance, I intend to eventually have regional 'clubs' that my users may join irrespective of their usergroup. The whole point of the "clubs" is to make it easier for people in close proximation to arrange their own events without the need to create a new usergroup for each location/region.

Hopefully, this will be working when I try setting things up.

Bob
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After reading this thread, I decided to try it out too. Sure enough, my test club created a forum under the grouping "Clubs" and created a usergroup with the club name.

My >> Configuration >> Member and forum options settings (under General) are:
* Club parent-forum = Forum Home
* Club forum grouping = Clubs  (I think I created this grouping back during my installation of ocPortal)

Maybe it's something in the settings that are not correct?

Steve
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I don't know, my setup isn't far different from yours. Perhaps the largest difference is I didn't name a specific grouping as "Clubs". While I doubt this could be the issue, it is I suppose a possibility.

In other words, my set up under the Member and Forum Options is…

Club Parent Forum = Saga of Ablution Forums
Club Forum Grouping = Saga of Ablution

Note that Grouping and Parent Forum are not really one and the same. See, I use virtual roots to make the appearance of two separate forums; Legacy Games and Saga of Ablution Forums. Saga of Ablution Grouping is the RP category in the Saga of Ablution Forums parent forum.

What I'll try now is to create a grouping for "Factions" as I want to maintain the naming used throughout the site and Clubs just doesn't fit. I'll see if that makes any difference, and report back.

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It didn't work. You are using 7.1.1 correct sholzy? Did you instal fresh or upgrade? I am wondering if perhaps a file magically disappeared from my installation that is required for this sort of thing….

So off to the file checker thingy in the upgrader script I go.

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Nope, that didn't solve it for me either.

I suppose it is time to call upon the higher powers…..

*puts on his priestly robes, brings out the alter and sacrifices upon it an old 386 processor*

"Oh hear our plea mighty ocportal gods*

All joking aside (gotta have some humor right?) any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated!

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Make from cms_ocf_groups module in CMS zone, not from admin_ocf_groups module. The former creates the forum too, the latter has a checkbox but that only determines behaviour of the usergroup itself.


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Ah, such a simple solution! Thanks much for that!

It may be beneficial to have whenever a group/club is made it does that, no matter where it is made; or disable making usergroups from the usergroup page (where I was doing it, acting as a member trying to make a club). Otherwise, it is likely that others may cry "BUG" and not look for how to do it correctly.

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good point, I'll take it off the form for adds, leave it for edits


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