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I have several forums set up now but want to share a userbase. Is this possible or do I have to share the forums? Yes I have been reading the documentation bit either I am not in the right place or I am plain blind. Spot
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Are you using ocf or a different forum?

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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OCF mainly - there is 1 thats using PHPBB 2X but I havent decided whether to integrate thast one yet. Spot
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Ok yes you can have many installs that use the same userbase with ocf.
They would all share one of the ocf members and yes you are able to have more then one ocf running.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Heh . . . how?

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Its an option when you install it. are you ocportal sites already installed?

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Yes - the only option I saw was wether I wanted to share forums - thats not what I want to share. I did tickthe multisite thing though. Spot
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Hmm it sounds like you did it correctly. So you should be able to have more then one forum for each install specially if you are using ocf.
Unless I missed some thing.


I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Well I would have to put the path to the userbase somewhere I expect. Only place is the forum section . . . . don't want to share a forum though just the userbase. Spot
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Hmm will have to do some testing as I thought you could set up many forums that use thee same users.


I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Well it can't be too hard since the userbase would be a table in the database. I would try to figger out how to do it myself except I am away from home on my dad's (vista) laptop with hardly any bandwidth. Surely its already done though? I can't be the only one to want to do this . . . .

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It might be already done.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Any idea how to find out?

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Hmm not off  the top of my head.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Thats certainly helpful ;) Spot
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Yes - the only option I saw was wether I wanted to share forums - thats not what I want to share. I did tickthe multisite thing though. Spot

To have several sites sharing the same userbase (a so-called "Multi-Site Network"), you need to share the forums, as the forums hold the users. If you have several installations of ocP sharing a single OCF installation, you can then change the permissions on some forums so that different forums are visible on different sites.

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What Philip said is correct. I should note that the last sentence only applies if the "Show forum within website" option is on.

Another trick with OCF is the virtual roots system. You set up the forum tree so each site has a main forum (under the root forum) and it's own forum structure underneath that. You can then create special links that makes ocPortal pretend that anything underneath a site's main forum doesn't exist.
I believe our multi-site-networks tutorial explains virtual roots in more detail.

My general advice though is to keep things simple. Is there a strong reason to have a shared set of members, yet different forums? I can't think of many situations unless you're running a huge established community like EA games does. It's usually best to focus on site's as completely separate entities, or to focus on one big site - trying to create separate site's and sharing things tends to complicate things for the administrators and confuses users.

I'm trying to avoid going off on a tangent about marketing here, but I'll throw out an analogy to the offline world - in the real world, many companies are owned by other companies, yet from the consumers point of view it's kept invisible. This:
  • simplifies the management of those companies. It's a lot easier to run things separately than having everything involving everything else. If you're planning on having staff on your sites (like staff in a company), they probably would be more enthused and make better decisions if they focus their effort on individual sites rather than into a network.
  • isolates them from each others problems. So if one company (site) does badly, it doesn't pull the others down.
  • and chiefly makes things simpler for the consumers (think: users, visitors). They don't need to build up an understanding of the network, and they don't get distracted from the core identity of any individual site. Branding is very important, as it defines the way people think about things (alas, people tend to think in terms of image not merit). If you create a big network you muddy the waters such that the individual sites can't appear focused enough to create a brand that gets remembered or respected.

Anyway I'm not one to tell people what to do but I thought I'd throw out my perspective on things. If you want to go ahead sharing members you might have valid reasons I don't know and it's up to you :). The strength of a big network is when the network represents the real brand (like EA games, where EA is a strong brand, and the brands of individual games are supported by the games themselves [the website's don't need to do that, so the distraction is irrelevant]).

Wow, this turned into a bit of an essay. I wasn't really intending to do that. Oh well, hopefully it'll be useful.


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Yeah - large established community. MSN Groups is closing down and we are moving all our forums.

Using the same forums is a) too big and b) can't change the permissions on catagories

Also I still can't load the site editor tree thing.

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Is that the problem with the base URL having a slash on it? If so removing the slash and clearing the caches should have fixed the problem.


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Was I helpful?
  • If not, please let us know how we can do better (please try and propose any bigger ideas in such a way that they are fundable and scalable).
  • If so, please let others know about ocPortal whenever you see the opportunity.
  • If my reply is too Vulcan or expressed too much in business-strategy terms, and not particularly personal, I apologise. As a company & project maintainer, time is very limited to me, so usually when I write a reply I try and make it generic advice to all readers. I'm also naturally a joined-up thinker, so I always express my thoughts in combined business and technical terms. I recognise not everyone likes that, don't let my Vulcan-thinking stop you enjoying ocPortal on fun personal projects.
  • If my response can inspire a community tutorial, that's a great way of giving back to the project as a user.
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It fixed all but the 1 tree.

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