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Hello

Is it possible to be able to have a seperate forum for an additional zone I have created?
What I am after is on my site I have what could be deemed as a club / foundation of some sort which I wanted to create a home for them on my own site.
This would have a page describing them and then also a list of there own forums within that zone.

I know you can add a club, but this just lists and gives them a section of the main forums (with the ability of sub-forums) on my own site, but I wanted to give them there own set of forums on there own page / zone, or at least make it look like they had there own set.
I just wanted to add, it does not actually have to be fully seperate and have its own database, it could share the same database and basically share the main forums features and configuration, so I guess I am asking is there a way I can add this to there zone and just show there particular forums instead of the rest

Anyone know of a way I can achieve this? Is it possible?

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I'm sure its possible and I have seen the forums which are part of a msn only show one section and look like they are part of the individual site so I assume it would be possible as part of a sub domain. I think you'll need to do or have done some custom coding to achieve it however. Sadly thats beyond my level of knowledge

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What you can do is make a sub-domain, install there a fresh copy of ocp with their own database, now they will have their own forum and inlog. You can make a splashscreen with let them the choice with inlog they want.

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I didnt really want to go down the route of a seperate login, I want them to share the members with the main site/forums as we share the same interests.

I was maybe thinking trying to do something with usergroups and permissions, but I don`t want users who become a member of there usergroup to be restricted to only viewing there forums / subforums

If it can`t be done without to much work I will just use the club feature and give them a section of the main forum, I was just kinda hoping you could list that seperatly on another zone

Mark
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Not without some programming I think.


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Look at: virtual roots


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Thanks for that pointer Chris, that has taken me to this tutorial which I will have a try out later after work

ocPortal Tutorial: Creating sub-communities (and sub-sites) - ocPortal.com

My only issue I think is there forums will still show on the main forums index page for all other users to see, or would that forum only be viewable through that virtual anchor link?

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I'll make you a deal… I'll provide some notes, if you write them up with more clarity and post to the community docs.

Deal ;)?


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Ok so in ocPortal there are content modules, which are a kind of page. For the forum, this is forumview and topicview. They are in the forum zone. If you want them to be able to operate from another zone you can do this, via setting transparent redirects. Go to Admin Zone > Structure > Redirects, and set them up. Let's say our new zone is called foo. You'd set foo:forumview -> forum:forumview, with transparent checked. You'd also set foo:topicview -> topic:topicview, with transparent checked.
Now we have the forum pages running from another zone. However, if we were to link to them directly, it'd go to the forum root which we do not want. This is where virtual roots come in. You can generate a URL that "pretends" that it is the root of the forum tree, and then use this URL on that menu. Add foo:forumview to the menu of your foo zone. It will take you to the forum home. I'm assuming your desired new forum root has been added. So now, browse to that. Then in the breadcrumbs, click the final node in it, which corresponds to the forum you are at. After clicking it you will see magically the breadcrumbs change so it appears this is the root forum. Now grab the URL you're at, go edit your foo zone's menu, and put this URL in.


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Thats a Deal, I will do my best to write them up with more clarity.  :thumbs:
I guess I should of actually checked these docs before even asking  :$

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I just validated my answer in the post above you. Hopefully makes sense, if not please ask me to clarify.

Maybe I will do this more, seems like a good deal - I have to answer only once and our community docs get improved :).


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I just had a quick go with this, and I think I need to read this all a bit more to understand it fully.

I understand the anchoring and adding that to the menu of the additional created zone, and then that links directly to there particular forum.

But the redirects part I need to go over again to understand exactly what there doing.
 
I now have a link in the relavent zone linking direct to my already created forum for that club.
Maybe that is where I am going wrong as I wanted that zone forum not to be viewable on the main sites forum lists.

I have to leave work now I will have another go later tonight

Mark

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If you don't want it on the main sites list, perhaps you should put the main site under a virtual root also. i.e. add another layer in your forum structure, something like:

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 - Main forums
  - ...
 - Zone forums
  - ...

As for transparent redirects, consider them like aliases. It is saying that module can coexist in another zone, and rather than actually redirecting you to the real zone, it is transparent (i.e. the user does now know a thing).


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Sorry I did not get to chance to do this or the write up last night, but I will soon as I get chance.

Right I think I have a better understanding now, can I just ask though, is it possible to virtual root this additional zones forum and also have forum grouping for them. 
That might be ok for them to not having grouping but to make this work, I would have to virtual root my main forums as well and that would definitely need grouping as I have a lot of catergories.

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Forum groups would not be touched by this in any way.


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Sorry Chris my teeny tiny brain is struggling, how can I anchor a link to this zones / clubs forum and also set grouping up for them.

So for example, they have groupings of

General

Health

Rescues

All with separate forums underneath them, what I have managed to do is set the link from there zone menu to only link to one of them forums underneath there grouping, is there some where I can say anchor there index page to list just there groups and forums.

I understand I would have to do this for the main forums aswell which would also have to be virtual as I would not want either to be seen on either forum view.

Thanks in advance

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Just add a new forum and edit the forums to be under it. Groupings are separate to the forum tree structure and will be preserved.


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Sorry Chris I am not sure if it is me not explaining things correctly or I am just not getting exactly what you mean.

Basically I can follow your write up and get it to work as far as anchoring the final breadcrumb and adding that to the zones menu and hey presto it works and that zone has a forum where I can add additional forums and posts within these.
This only allows a list of forums and does not however allow to add additional groupings within this forum, like what you see on the main forumview pages

You might ask why I need this, well the main sites forums has 11 groupings with separate forums underneath and if I am to make these two be non visible to each other on the same forumview page then I need to be able to link both zones forumview pages and only show the groupings and forums for there zones.

Hope that makes sense: :$
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No, I am confused at the confusion ;).

Forum groupings are entirely unrelated to forum structure. Wherever you put a forum in the structure, it will be grouped according to the grouping already chosen for it.

So, if you've moved some forums under a new parent, they should continue to be grouped under that parent, exactly as before.

If that's not the case I'd be very surprised, and please supply a link or screenshot to demonstrate.

If you're asking how to get other forums to show under your new parent, i.e. be shared across different positions in your forum tree, that would be possible via adding redirect forums.


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