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A site with hundreds of forums can pose a navigation nightmare getting to the correct forums.

Is there any thought or suggestion (In development) that when signing up to the site that a member may be able to select from a drop down or check box list one or many forums they want to subscribe to thus seeing THOSE forums only on their entry to OC portal when logged on. They would be able to edit their profile and add new forums at any time to make them visable. Probably limited to at least the root (top) level forums to begin with. Refer to say Yahoo groups and the way that tries to contain the number of groups you have to manage through when logged on. Note also the ability to SEARCH through a site to get relevant forums. If you had even say 20-50 or more top level forums and each had 5-10 sub forums that makes for a difficult time getting around the particular forums (site) you are looking for.




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Let me just make sure I understand you - you're basically proposing the ability for each member to "hide" certain forums for all of their visits?

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Yes Allen that is correct.

The issue is that, say you have 200 Forum groups or organisations that are groups in their own right and want to have sub forums within their own forums. Say  a Political Lobby group and in the main forum they may have both secured membership (Referral) and non secured forums such as Leadership, State Party, South London Branch, Middlesex Branch etc. You could end up with 100's of forums and as many sub forums. Now ALL decent size groups will want a ROOT LEVEL Forum (The ones with the big OC Circles) so imagine you end up with 200 OC Circle type Forums and a heap of sub forums. (Thats because the OC Forums look BIG and important.

You hit the site and suddenly you have a scroll window 1.2km long. How will you manage the groups that you are interested in and display those only.

You can do it two ways. Display ALL groups first time up and you join and tick groups you are interested in as part of your local profile and then next login will display just those (root top level) groups you are interested in and perhaps some alert to new groups that have been created.

Or you can have a search function that lets you search FORUMS (Top level Forums) and you can select from a list say with check boxes and effectively subscribe or unsubscribe as the case may be.

You can see the sort of concept at www.groups.yahoo.com.au

The other related issue :offtopic: is how you receive posts to forums 

You can receive individual emails in response to a post OR you might want to receive a digest that is a summary of posts for the forum (s) you are tracking. A number of posts in one email. Your check box to receive mails to all posts might be okay for a small site but as soon as it gets over a  few members posting regulalry the email traffic would be immense. I would therefore suggest a button that says receive mails to posts in the  forums subscribed to.

We are looking at developing in yr product and am doing some pre testing a range of the functions. In general OCPortal is quite VAST and has some great concepts however is still difficult to operate in some areas, admin functions are not always flowing, and terms used are unclear as the help has not kept pace with developers…(Whats new)!! Even on a 2MB link its quite slow to load some forum areas but I have read your posts on this issue and Cache on makes a massive difference. If Cache is off forget it people… I am not sure its for non IT people but it is certainly the best packaged portal product around for sure and you guys have done simply an enormous job. Have spent about three weeks off and on with it so far and just getting out of foums into other areas such as calander etc. To build this in Sharepoint would take many months and cost mega dollars.

One thing you definitely need is a calander scroll button left and right for months up and down and year up and down on front home page calander. Minor thing but if you just want to quickly see what is say in next month without actually entering the calander a month scroll function would be really good. The airlines have it…

Anyway regardless, 9 out of 10 in functionality out of box, 5 (maybe 6) out of 10 for doco and 11 out of 10 for your responses to Forum replies regardless of paid product subscription. Well done so far and keep the enhancement and bug fixes coming its a credit to you all.

Regards

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Your hide ideas sound like a good one - and we'll for sure consider them for future releases.

If you're interested in getting them sooner, we have a paid consultancy program where you can sponsor a feature to have it developed in the very near future (for varying costs).

In general OCPortal is quite VAST and has some great concepts however is still difficult to operate in some areas, admin functions are not always flowing, and terms used are unclear as the help has not kept pace with developers.

I'm interested, if you're willing to elaborate a bit more on specifically what it is that you find makes ocPortal difficult to operate, admin functions to not flow, and unclear terms. We've spent a large amount of time trying to fix these very problems, and if you could point them out for us, we would appreciate it very much.

Thanks very much for your feedback. :)

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In general OCPortal is quite VAST and has some great concepts however is still difficult to operate in some areas, admin functions are not always flowing, and terms used are unclear as the help has not kept pace with developers.

Its not that it is unclear, but sometimes different name then you are used on the known boards / portals etc. And behind that is a lot  more then you get from a known board / portal. Thats imo the main reason that some functions are called otherwise.
Im using this portal since v1, and since v3 came out i really started to do things with it, and i must say, i keep discovering things when im doing my thing on the site..

:D  Dont shoot the messenger!!  :D

How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise my hand.

Chris Graham said

I guess a warning in your line of work tends tomean 'run for cover'. Fortunately it's not so severe when it comes to computers ;).
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Allen said

If you're interested in getting them sooner, we have a paid consultancy program where you can sponsor a feature to have it developed in the very near future (for varying costs).

Can you ask consultancy to give us some indicative costs for such developments as detailed. When they contact me I will draft up a spec with some additional components relating to an additional level of approval to join a forum rather than just referal.

Allen said

In general OCPortal is quite VAST and has some great concepts however is still difficult to operate in some areas, admin functions are not always flowing, and terms used are unclear as the help has not kept pace with developers.
I'm interested, if you're willing to elaborate a bit more on specifically what it is that you find makes ocPortal difficult to operate, admin functions to not flow, and unclear terms. We've spent a large amount of time trying to fix these very problems, and if you could point them out for us, we would appreciate it very much.

Thanks very much for your feedback. :)

Allen
For example take Admin -> forums.. In edit forums why cant you edit the "Category" from the edit forum screen. The word category in the edit forum screen could easily say "edit Category" and link to the related table. Edit Category just sits on its own and really could easily be part of the edit screen. Certainly if you make a new forum and realise you want to change a category description to better accomodate the forum currently it requires you to create the forum, save then come back into category, edit category and save.

It is interesting that the first entry into Admin -> forums gives you only edit/Add Category and edit/Add Forums a couple of icons but as soon as you do something like edit a forum or add a category you get a heap more icons displayed. I cant see why you dont display all icons the first time you enter Admin -> forums. In fact you cant get even the other icons up until you actually change something. (Edit Forum, Edit a forum, Preview, and Edit even before the full menu is available.)

"Edit This" icon means nothing if you don't know what "THIS" is, in other words which forum you just created. It actually means edit the last forum you edited. If you displayed the forum path (root\forum|sub forum) at the top of the screen that the "Edit This" applied to that would be slightly better. The icon might be better titled "Edit last edited"

 "Edit One" really means "Edit Forum" or "Forums" where you select the Forum you are wanting to edit. Edit "One" is not really appropriate wording.

"View THIS" really means view the last forum you edited but it doesn't display which forum that was. If you have hundreds of forums try remembering which one you last made a change to.

"View Archive" actually means view the forums doesn't it? If it does and I might be missing something then why not make it clear and simple?

These are the sorts of things I refer to from a complete novice user view and do not mean in any way to degrade the fantasic work you are doing.

Regards :thumbs:









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Thanks for the feedback! 'this' refers to 'what was just edited' or 'what was last added' depending if you've just done an add or an edit. The same strings are used when adding/editing any kind of content. The reason we don't say it directly is because if we did we'd have to add a few dozen more language strings into the system, and already translators have real trouble with the quantity in the system to be translated. That said, defining 'this' on the page and overriding 'view archive' with something more appropriate is certainly something we can look at.

I'm going to carefully review this topic, and then I'll get back to you with either some requests for clarification or a quote :).


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