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 Good morning:

I have a few question for you:

1. In the user groups you have Promotion Target and is there any way to give a user that new promotion for example 3 days or 72 hours. For example if the user was assigned in the regular group and they got promoted to Active user, after 3 days or 72 hours they would go back to regular user group if they do not continue to post messages in the forums?

2. In the awards you have download can use -1 for every file they download and is there any way to give the user +1 credits in points when they upload files. If they reach 0 points left they can not longer download any more files until they upload some more files?

3. How does it effect reading or post messages based on the security post low, medium and high just posting a message in the forums? You have low range visibility, medium range visibility, and high range visibility so I am not sure how this effect as the message are being posted in the forums?  If I just allow the users to post low medium visibility messages in th

4. If I setup to not allow the user for example to chat but if they use the point store to purchase chat would that override the security for the time period that is specified in the manage point store inventory? I did this last time and it did not work.

6. How does the low, medium, and high security functions work or effect items has they are being posted in the categories? 

7. Would it be easer to use the Permission tree editor then using the Global specific permission under security for the entire site so I do not mess up the forums, files ect.. file permissions?

8. In Author under the content manger is it possible to allow the users to update there own news files, upload there own projects and allow the other users on the site to downlod there projects please? 

When I do a search from your online documentation using the keyword match-key page restrictions I am getting this error message There is an API parameter mismatch in function get_field_auto_increment.



Thanks
Phil








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In the user groups you have Promotion Target and is there any way to give a user that new promotion for example 3 days or 72 hours. For example if the user was assigned in the regular group and they got promoted to Active user, after 3 days or 72 hours they would go back to regular user group if they do not continue to post messages in the forums?

No. But you can setup temporary permissions that can be sold in the point store.

In the awards you have download can use -1 for every file they download and is there any way to give the user +1 credits in points when they upload files. If they reach 0 points left they can not longer download any more files until they upload some more files?

Yes, but it is a different setting. In the Configuration (Settings tab of the Admin Zone, Configuration icon, Points section), there are lots of settings for awarding points for submitting content.

How does it effect reading or post messages based on the security post low, medium and high just posting a message in the forums …

The permissions have no impact on reading, as those are controlled by the view tickboxes.
To post, you need 'low range' permission. However there is no need to actually understand these different permission ranges in much detail, as the Permission Tree Editor will help you. If you use the Permission Tree Editor to go to the forums zone, then the forumview module, you'll be able to select individual forums, and set permissions that only affect those forums. Only low and mid range permissions are available at this point in the permission tree, and they correspond to post permissions and topic permissions respectively. In other words, to give someone post permission, they need to have lowrange submission permission, and to give them permission to create a topic they need midrange submission permission; assign those permissions for each forum. I could talk all day about the various ways permissions could be set - it's just the easiest way for the forums is to not even think about setting global permissions - just set them for each forum as I just described.

If I setup to not allow the user for example to chat but if they use the point store to purchase chat would that override the security for the time period that is specified in the manage point store inventory? I did this last time and it did not work.

If the permissions are correctly set, it should work.

How does the low, medium, and high security functions work or effect items has they are being posted in the categories?  

It has no effect on the items themselves, only a users ability to manipulate those items. Low, medium, and high, are just three categorisations for different kind of content. Some we class as really important, so that goes under high (e.g. the current image of the day), and some we class as really trivial, so that goes in low (e.g. a forum post) – most is medium. As mentioned before though, you don't really need to understand what is what. The default global settings are pretty logical, and you can override them for individual categories - the categories will only allow you to override what they understand, so it simplifies things. For instance, downloads work via medium, so the Permission Tree Editor will only allow you to edit medium permissions for a download category (low and high aren't even shown).

Would it be easer to use the Permission tree editor then using the Global specific permission under security for the entire site so I do not mess up the forums, files ect.. file permissions?

Yes

In Author under the content manger is it possible to allow the users to update there own news files, upload there own projects and allow the other users on the site to downlod there projects please?

I think you're getting confused here. The stuff under the Author icon is nothing to do with permissions - it's a content-type in it's own right, just like news, or downloads.

If you want members to be able to submit their own news, and edit their own news, but not other people's, then this would be a fairly standard thing to do. You'd enable midrange submit permissions for any categories you want members to be able to submit to. You'd enable midrange edit-own-content permissions in the same way. You would not enable midrange edit-content or delete-content permissions. You might enable midrange delete-own-content permissions. You might enable midrange bypass-validation permissions.

Assuming 'projects' is a catalogue, this would be similar to news.


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Chris Graham said

In the user groups you have Promotion Target and is there any way to give a user that new promotion for example 3 days or 72 hours. For example if the user was assigned in the regular group and they got promoted to Active user, after 3 days or 72 hours they would go back to regular user group if they do not continue to post messages in the forums?
  No. But you can setup temporary permissions that can be sold in the point store.

In the awards you have download can use -1 for every file they download and is there any way to give the user +1 credits in points when they upload files. If they reach 0 points left they can not longer download any more files until they upload some more files?
  Yes, but it is a different setting. In the Configuration (Settings tab of the Admin Zone, Configuration icon, Points section), there are lots of settings for awarding points for submitting content.

How does it effect reading or post messages based on the security post low, medium and high just posting a message in the forums …
  The permissions have no impact on reading, as those are controlled by the view tickboxes.
To post, you need 'low range' permission. However there is no need to actually understand these different permission ranges in much detail, as the Permission Tree Editor will help you. If you use the Permission Tree Editor to go to the forums zone, then the forumview module, you'll be able to select individual forums, and set permissions that only affect those forums. Only low and mid range permissions are available at this point in the permission tree, and they correspond to post permissions and topic permissions respectively. In other words, to give someone post permission, they need to have lowrange submission permission, and to give them permission to create a topic they need midrange submission permission; assign those permissions for each forum. I could talk all day about the various ways permissions could be set - it's just the easiest way for the forums is to not even think about setting global permissions - just set them for each forum as I just described.

If I setup to not allow the user for example to chat but if they use the point store to purchase chat would that override the security for the time period that is specified in the manage point store inventory? I did this last time and it did not work.
  If the permissions are correctly set, it should work.

How does the low, medium, and high security functions work or effect items has they are being posted in the categories?  
  It has no effect on the items themselves, only a users ability to manipulate those items. Low, medium, and high, are just three categorisations for different kind of content. Some we class as really important, so that goes under high (e.g. the current image of the day), and some we class as really trivial, so that goes in low (e.g. a forum post) - most is medium. As mentioned before though, you don't really need to understand what is what. The default global settings are pretty logical, and you can override them for individual categories - the categories will only allow you to override what they understand, so it simplifies things. For instance, downloads work via medium, so the Permission Tree Editor will only allow you to edit medium permissions for a download category (low and high aren't even shown).

Would it be easer to use the Permission tree editor then using the Global specific permission under security for the entire site so I do not mess up the forums, files ect.. file permissions?
  Yes

In Author under the content manger is it possible to allow the users to update there own news files, upload there own projects and allow the other users on the site to downlod there projects please?
  I think you're getting confused here. The stuff under the Author icon is nothing to do with permissions - it's a content-type in it's own right, just like news, or downloads.

If you want members to be able to submit their own news, and edit their own news, but not other people's, then this would be a fairly standard thing to do. You'd enable midrange submit permissions for any categories you want members to be able to submit to. You'd enable midrange edit-own-content permissions in the same way. You would not enable midrange edit-content or delete-content permissions. You might enable midrange delete-own-content permissions. You might enable midrange bypass-validation permissions.

Assuming 'projects' is a catalogue, this would be similar to news.
 
Chris

I checked in the point-store and I did not see anything in the pull down for The specific permission that allows the users to purchase access the chat.

I did not see the part to charge the users points when they download files?

Thanks
Phil







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I did this last time and it did not work.

I did not see anything in the pull down for The specific permission that allows the users to purchase access the chat.

I'm not sure how you could have done it before, if you can't find an option for it. However, there is no specific permission for this- it would be done by granting access to the site:chat module.

I did not see the part to charge the users points when they download files?

Go the screen I illustrated previously, and use the web browsers find/search feature with the phrase 'download'. It should lead you straight to the option.


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Chris Graham said

I did this last time and it did not work.
 …
I did not see anything in the pull down for The specific permission that allows the users to purchase access the chat.
  I'm not sure how you could have done it before, if you can't find an option for it. However, there is no specific permission for this- it would be done by granting access to the site:chat module.

I did not see the part to charge the users points when they download files?
  Go the screen I illustrated previously, and use the web browsers find/search feature with the phrase 'download'. It should lead you straight to the option.
 

Chris

Can you please give me a example?

I'm not sure how you could have done it before, if you can't find an option for it. However, there is no specific permission for this- it would be done by granting access to the site:chat module.


Thanks

Phil



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Search download is not working

ptaylor2 said

Chris Graham said

I did this last time and it did not work.
 …
I did not see anything in the pull down for The specific permission that allows the users to purchase access the chat.
  I'm not sure how you could have done it before, if you can't find an option for it. However, there is no specific permission for this- it would be done by granting access to the site:chat module.

I did not see the part to charge the users points when they download files?
  Go the screen I illustrated previously, and use the web browsers find/search feature with the phrase 'download'. It should lead you straight to the option.
 

Chris

Can you please give me a example?

I'm not sure how you could have done it before, if you can't find an option for it. However, there is no specific permission for this- it would be done by granting access to the site:chat module.


Thanks

Phil






Chris

The downloa search is not working.

This is an error that has been elevated to critical error status because it occured during the primary error mechanism reporting system itself (possibly due to it occuring within the standard output framework). It may be masking a secondary error that occured before this, but was never output - if so, it is likely strongly related to this one, thus fixing this will fix the other.

Unfortunately a query has failed [UPDATE ocp2_sessions SET the_title='An error has occurred', the_zone='site', the_page='search', the_type='results', last_activity=1173293210, the_id='' WHERE (the_session=1660137) LIMIT 1] [<strong>MySQL server has gone away</strong>] (ocPortal version: 3.1.3, PHP version: 5.2.1, URL: /community/data/iframe.php?zone=site&wide_high=1&page=search&type=results&content=download&all_defaults=1&author=&days=-1&sort=relevance&direction=DESC)

File -> 'C:\Inetpub\web\users\cyberchatnet.com\community\sources\global2.php'
Line -> 686
Function -> 'die_html_trace'
Args -> array
File -> 'C:\Inetpub\web\users\cyberchatnet.com\community\sources\database\mysql.php'
Line -> 163
Function -> 'clean_exit'

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