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PT's - Inability to 'EDIT' post - Why?

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I've been using the PT feature quite a lot recently, and I 'discover' it isn't as intuitive a feature as one would wish it to be (nor as it was prior to v.8), for a couple of reasons:
  • One cannot 'edit' a post under any circumstances. Not even recalling it gives that ability!
  • One cannot navigate back to 'Forum home' from that page. No breadcrumb navigation available, and the only way back to the Forums is to select 'Community >> Forums' from the navbar at the top. Not all sites have a similar navbar, indeed none that I've visited have that feature!

Observations, please?

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That is ironic that you brought that up as I was just noticing the same frustrations today regarding that. I didn't like the no breadcrumb back to forum root since PT's seem to be integrated with the forum it doesn't make sense. As far as the editing I hadn't noticed that yet but that would certainly be annoying.
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Good observation, Fletch!

I'm using it frequently also and it feels a bit awkward indeed without the breadcrumbs, but I've adapted to the Community/Forum link which is a constant when visiting private sections out of the Forum. However, I had not noticed the inability to edit, or even delete a post for that matter, until you just pointed out. Knowing how busy Chris has been lately, this must be part of unfinished features.;)

I second your query!:thumbs:

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Fletch said

I've been using the PT feature quite a lot recently, and I 'discover' it isn't as intuitive a feature as one would wish it to be (nor as it was prior to v.8), for a couple of reasons:
  • One cannot 'edit' a post under any circumstances. Not even recalling it gives that ability!
  • One cannot navigate back to 'Forum home' from that page. No breadcrumb navigation available, and the only way back to the Forums is to select 'Community >> Forums' from the navbar at the top. Not all sites have a similar navbar, indeed none that I've visited have that feature!

Observations, please?

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That's a fix for editing.

Regarding navigation, that's by design. If we changed it to forum breadcrumbs, people would be complaining they lost their breadcrumb position when opening private topics through their inbox, or they'd express worry that their "private" topics were being shown as underneath a public forum.

v9 is emphasising the idea of the importance of the community/social menu in panel_top, and making it editable – so perhaps more sites will be keeping this navigation mechanism. That menu would be there for both the members pages and forums, as these are both classified as 'social'.


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  • 1. This issue has been filed on the tracker as issue #561, with a fix.
  • 2. Regarding navigation, that's by design.

1. thanks

2. Not sure I agree with the reasoning, but prepared to see how it pans out in v.9 before having a 'hissy fit'.

I forecast that we will all be dropping 'Social Media' buttons within the next two years. I mean, what do they do for your website other than aggressively advertise THEMSELVES? A site with umpty-ump 'likes' doesn't necessarily drive users to visit YOU, because the same users are now blasť about how many people were idle enough to click a button rather than take time to compose a few words of recommendation. If your content is good, people will still find your site without any assistance from social media buttons littered all over YOUR site!

Haven't had the cojones to take 9 for a spin, as yet! Will report back in the appropriate thread if things don't go according to plan.

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I forecast that we will all be dropping 'Social Media' buttons within the next two years. I mean, what do they do for your website other than aggressively advertise THEMSELVES? A site with umpty-ump 'likes' doesn't necessarily drive users to visit YOU, because the same users are now blasť about how many people were idle enough to click a button rather than take time to compose a few words of recommendation. If your content is good, people will still find your site without any assistance from social media buttons littered all over YOUR site!
For some websites, this is true. Specific-use websites will only ever attract new visitors through paid advertising or search engine ranking.

But saying that, I don't think the same assumption can be made of websites that have a broader array of content, like entertainment or 'funny pictures of cats' websites. I think these will rely much more heavily on viral advertising as time goes on.


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Yeah, Robbie.

I re-read my pompous comment, and thought that offering predictions of this kind without any actual proof is really a waste of a reader's time.

But, the one thing I try not to be is the 'expert' who is only as good as the last thing he read. Tough, sometimes, and often one really has to distil the dross from the reality!

If, ultimately, the social media linkage proves to be something that simply isn't only a phenomenon of the times, I am happy to sit corrected.

And hopefully 'big' enough to admit it!

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I most certainly have to blame my French for thinking that Fletch meant all along that the problem with the non-editing was for this site; i.e. ocportal.com community PTs don't have an edit function, or am I completely off my rocker on both counts?O_o:lol:
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 :lol:    ROTFLMAO!   :lol:

Jean said

I most certainly have to blame my French for thinking that Fletch meant all along that the problem with the non-editing was for this site; i.e. ocportal.com community PTs don't have an edit function, or am I completely off my rocker on both counts?

You read my post correctly. I WAS referring to this site, however, I believe this forum is also ocPortal's 'cutting edge' shop window, and that the team actually install the latest and greatest on here first.

So the 'fix' was accepted as an 'omission' in the upgrade.

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