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Hey guys,
I was just looking at the stats for page load times. What would cause a 6 second load time for :panel_top? As far as I know, I'm not using the top panel for anything on any of my pages.

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Allow me to add my own tentative observation to this thread.

I have noticed a 'general' slow down in responsiveness since 7.1.1. The most frustrating part being when trying to edit posts and pages, where the system seems to go to sleep, and the only way to bring it back to life is to 'refresh' or 'reload'. The outcome of that action is that the edit is completely overriden and I have to start all over again.

I've discussed the issue with my web hosts and spent about 30 minutes with their techs early this morning (3-3:30 a.m. my time) without being able to identify anything of value other than a commmon denominator of the 'host' and 'ocPortal', which is the software running the three sites that have given me this problem. All other web pages load like lightning, including heavy 'news' sites. This forum (which is also using ocPortal 7.1.1 (?)) also loads 'normally'!

My ISP also did a check without being able to identify anything of value, and various speed tests from my location to various testing sites have established that my 1 gig download figure is 'near-as-dammit' genuine.

I'd be happy to conduct further tests from my location if it is felt it would help to clarify this issue.

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Browsers used:
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  • Internet Explorer ::: 9.0.812.16421
  • Google Chrome ::: 12.0.742.112
  • Opera ::: 11.50.1074



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Hi guys,

I'm not sure I can be particularly helpful on these issues.

The first post seems a statistical blip possibly in correlation with a bot. I'm not sure how it would find that URL (stats shouldn't be logged against panels unless they are accessed directly as pages). But if a bot was going nuts on your site it would explain why pages were slower. That's speculation, but stats will often show anomalies.

Fletch, I wonder if it is the WYSIWYG editor loading a lot of resources and something either on the server or your connection tripping on that. I doubt it is actually 7.1.1, I can't think what we'd have changed to trip it. A Jing video might help. As would knowing whether it only happens with the WYSIWYG editor on.


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I'm experimenting the same issue, but mine it's a first time installation, so I don't know if it's related with the 7.1.1 version of the software.
The fact is that the overall speed is very low, for a new site under construction, with almost no contents…


   
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Chris Graham said

Fletch, I wonder if it is the WYSIWYG editor loading a lot of resources and something either on the server or your connection tripping on that. I doubt it is actually 7.1.1, I can't think what we'd have changed to trip it. A Jing video might help. As would knowing whether it only happens with the WYSIWYG editor on.
Absolutely NO chance of the WYSIWYG editor sticking its two cents in here, as I NEVER activate the darn thing! Will resort to a vid if things get really bad, but I'm 'introverted' enough to look at my own setup first.

M$ pushed out some massive updates yesterday (patch Tuesday), which included Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 3 for x64-based Systems (KB973685), and Adobe and Sun have very recently updated Flash and Java. Suddenly, today (actually now) things appear to be loading as they used to.

Coincidence? Possible! But I am ever the optimist!

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I'm experimenting the same issue, but mine it's a first time installation, so I don't know if it's related with the 7.1.1 version of the software.
The fact is that the overall speed is very low, for a new site under construction, with almost no contents…

Specifically with panel_top in the stats, or editing posts? Or are you saying it is slow in general? If it's slow in general, it's probably due to a poor shared hosts. The big ones tend to be big through overselling each server.


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Chris Graham said

Specifically with panel_top in the stats, or editing posts? Or are you saying it is slow in general? If it's slow in general, it's probably due to a poor shared hosts. The big ones tend to be big through overselling each server.

It's slow in general, but it takes 6-10 seconds to open every editing page


   
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The editing pages have to do what is called a "semi-parse" of the Comcode being edited, which is computationally-intensive, but it should not be more than roughly a 0.5 second hit. So this does suggest to me a busy server, everything takes longer than it should and the slower pages particularly long.


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Mhhhh… I've installed a local copy of ocPortal on Easyphp, and it seems to is as slow as on remote!


   
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I think I've resolved MY problem (see vid) …


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Chris Graham said

Hi guys,

I'm not sure I can be particularly helpful on these issues.

The first post seems a statistical blip possibly in correlation with a bot. I'm not sure how it would find that URL (stats shouldn't be logged against panels unless they are accessed directly as pages). But if a bot was going nuts on your site it would explain why pages were slower. That's speculation, but stats will often show anomalies.

Thanks, Chris! Your explanation makes sense to me. When first coming to the site, the landing page takes a few seconds to load but after that the rest of the pages is fairly quick. My question was just an observation of the stats page and that stat seemed out of place.

Steve
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Fletch said

I think I've resolved MY problem (see vid) …


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Not sure I understood this, but I think I've gone deaf now  :lol:


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Chris Graham said

Not sure I understood this, but I think I've gone deaf now  :lol:
Ah, sorry, it so excited me that I didn't think about the fact that others didn't have the full background …
  • pages slow loading
  • edits not running to completion
  • site freezing without any apparent reason

In my original post I mentioned dealing with my web hosts and my ISP. Both reassured that there was nothing untoward.

Today (sorry, yesterday) I leant on my web hosts a bit more - the day shift; the more knowledgeable ones! Sure as hell, a little later, suddenly the ISP (ZON) went off air and the system began a reboot (the vid only shows a short bit of the reboot) and when the system was back up you can observe the speed at which the page responded (that bit was NOT edited)! All other peripherals appear to be running better too (email, TV, Fax, WiFi access point, off-site storage, and other little things that come with the package), but I think the thing that was most significant was that they reset/flushed their DNS Server.

I am still suffering intermittent 'load delays', but at least one element of several has been eliminated. Now I can concentrate on other areas.

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Chris Graham said

Fletch said

I think I've resolved MY problem (see vid) …

Not sure I understood this, but I think I've gone deaf now  :lol:

 :lol:  I guess there was a reason why my sound wasn't working properly when I viewed the video.

Steve
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Chris Graham said

Not sure I understood this, but I think I've gone deaf now  :lol:

That video made everything as clear as mud.

Fletch said

Ah, sorry, it so excited me that I didn't think about the fact that others didn't have the full background …
  • pages slow loading
  • edits not running to completion
  • site freezing without any apparent reason

In my original post I mentioned dealing with my web hosts and my ISP. Both reassured that there was nothing untoward.

Today (sorry, yesterday) I leant on my web hosts a bit more - the day shift; the more knowledgeable ones! Sure as hell, a little later, suddenly the ISP (ZON) went off air and the system began a reboot (the vid only shows a short bit of the reboot) and when the system was back up you can observe the speed at which the page responded (that bit was NOT edited)! All other peripherals appear to be running better too (email, TV, Fax, WiFi access point, off-site storage, and other little things that come with the package), but I think the thing that was most significant was that they reset/flushed their DNS Server.

I am still suffering intermittent 'load delays', but at least one element of several has been eliminated. Now I can concentrate on other areas.

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P.S. Sorry I damaged your hearing aid … !!


Now I understand. Thanks for clearing that up.

Steve
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