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Thought I needed to share this...

Greetings,

I wasn't sure where to post this but I feel it needs to be stated. If this is the wrong area for this post, please move it to the right area.

I have finally found the one thing in ocportal that I do not like…. the Permissions tree.

I understand the basic concept and all… but my lord.. it is a pain! I still haven't figured out how to give a user group posting without validation needed privileges and I have been at it for half a day now!

I propose that permissions system needs to be made more user friendly. How about this, give a basic site permissions check off box style to each user group (including when you create user groups). Then give permission charts with click in the box to set a certain permission per module. Not all in one huge tree that you have to dig through….

I know it is meant to cover every single little word on the site and all… but I have to say, it is a pain to go through…. and it makes me pull my hair out….

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I do agree with you actually.
I also would like a place to edit group permissions and list each module and you click on each module and it shows you permissions.
Kind of like IPB.


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Ok… I have found an area that lets you do this with OCF…

It's in Security and is called Specific Permissions. You can choose the forums area in there and get this nice check box board interface for permissions…. I must have been too out of it yesterday to notice it.

I tried to edit my recent post in Silly Questions Vault to add my edit of finding this since I was asking about it there as well… but I got locked out of my own thread due to not having permissions to edit the thread… and now can't even go into the thread to even make a reply about my find.


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Ah good job finding it.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Ok… I have found an area that lets you do this with OCF…

It's in Security and is called Specific Permissions. You can choose the forums area in there and get this nice check box board interface for permissions…. I must have been too out of it yesterday to notice it.

I tried to edit my recent post in Silly Questions Vault to add my edit of finding this since I was asking about it there as well… but I got locked out of my own thread due to not having permissions to edit the thread… and now can't even go into the thread to even make a reply about my find.


Wait… do you mean here?

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Topic got unvalidated, presumably when it was edited. I've validated it now, and soon I'll see if it was caused by a bug.


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I'd like to note that now I can access that topic.

I am not sure why it was I couldn't access the topic, maybe something to do with browser caching.

And yes, in the third paragraph I am referring to here to my post in the Silly Questions vault. It's not really 3rd paragraph.. really 3rd area of me typing.. but yeah..

Anyways I am still trying to figure out the exact forum permissions. Not everything seems to be in that Specific Permissions tool.. ie.. having users able to post without previewing and so forth… so looks like another trip into the Permissions Tree…

*goes and grabs a bottle of advil*

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Chris Graham said

Topic got unvalidated, presumably when it was edited. I've validated it now, and soon I'll see if it was caused by a bug.
Oh and I thought it was hidden well thanks.
If its a bug I hope its an easy one to fix.

Then again this is you we are talking about all bugs are easy bugs. You rock.  :thumbs:

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Thanks both of you for your feedback, we'll be considering it :).

Help on validation permissions can be found in the forums tutorial if I remember correctly.

It's in Security and is called Specific Permissions. You can choose the forums area in there and get this nice check box board interface for permissions…. I must have been too out of it yesterday to notice it.

Best to read the docs about this. Think of the global specific permissions as a global settings tool for the same permissions you set in the permission tree editor. What isn't overridden in the permission tree editor comes from the global settings.

having users able to post without previewing and so forth

That's actually an option individual members choose in their profile.

If its a bug I hope its an easy one to fix.

Yes it turned out to be an ancient bug. Must have been here for ages but nobody ever spotted it! (non-staff rarely edit topics)


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Hehe.. sorry :P

I tend to be in the belief of if it hasn't been awhile since your last post and no one has posted but you have something you want to add, it's best to edit your post than double post.

So is this fixed then? Or should I fear the edit button?

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So is this fixed then? Or should I fear the edit button?

It's fixed, but not on this site yet.


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Speaking of double posting a neat feature that ocportal could add is an auto merge.
Its a nice feature I have seen in other forum scripts and would be awesome to see in ocportal's ocf.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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