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If I understand what I have read correctly (which is usually doubtful), if you decide to go for the multiple linked site option, at what point exactly can/do they link?? In the forum, can I choose just a SPECIFIC linked forum or does it have to be the WHOLE forum root? (and if so what happens when two people from different parent sites have the same username - I would only want to link at forum level if that is possible, which I think it is…??)

In setting up a multiple site, does the first installation (parent) site have to be configured on installation to be a multiple site, or does that only come from subsequent installations on other sites (one of the installation options) to link to the parent?

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I am actually using the multiple site feature.
Basically what it allows you to do is have more then one ocPortal install connected to one forum database. So basically each site will share the same members.
Another thing you can do with that feature is have the forum database in a separate database then the site, this is the sql database.

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I thing you could use this to save your self database space because you do have 1and1 and are limited by that so you can use this feature to your advantage and install one copy of ocportal for the members and then another using a different sql database that has every thing else, such as the gallery, cedi, catalogues and so on.

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If I understand what I have read correctly (which is usually doubtful), if you decide to go for the multiple linked site option, at what point exactly can/do they link?? In the forum, can I choose just a SPECIFIC linked forum or does it have to be the WHOLE forum root? (and if so what happens when two people from different parent sites have the same username - I would only want to link at forum level if that is possible, which I think it is…??)

In setting up a multiple site, does the first installation (parent) site have to be configured on installation to be a multiple site, or does that only come from subsequent installations on other sites (one of the installation options) to link to the parent?

Hope this makes sense…

As Ami pointed out, it's not the forum database, rather than any particular forum. This naturally implies there is only one set of users.

No site needs to be setup to be a 'parent site' – rather, it is 'child' sites have to be setup upon installation to use the 'parent' forum database.
With OCF, if you're sharing a forum database, you are able to set up the forum base URL in two ways:
  • You can have the forum base URL be the parent's forum base URL for all your sites
  • You can have the forum base URL be different for all your sites, which causes each site to use it's own forum code, sharing the database. Like this, you can do some interesting things, like giving each site it's own forum permissions and forum theme; but it does require extra set-up.

Something else of interest is that you is that you can hint to ocPortal that each site appears to have it's own forums, rather them being shared.
Check out this URL example:
http://ocportal.com/forum/pg/topicview/misc/7231/index.php&keep_forum_root=233

Note how 'Deploying' (forum #233) seems to be the root forum.
This is because of &keep_forum_root=233.

Here's another example:
http://ocportal.com/forum/pg/forumview/misc/233/index.php&keep_forum_root=233

If I put the forum link on our website menu as the above link, it would look like the forums on the forums were only those that in reality are underneath 'Deploying'.


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Hmm, let me see if I can give a clearer example of my question:

Say I want to run 5 totally individual OCP sites with individual site-specific forums.

However, I want them to have a shared single board between them (NOT the enitre forum root itself, but just one section of it…). Is that possible??
 

 





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Reggie said

Hmm, let me see if I can give a clearer example of my question:

Say I want to run 5 totally individual OCP sites with individual site-specific forums.

However, I want them to have a shared single board between them (NOT the enitre forum root itself, but just one section of it…). Is that possible??
 

Do the keep forum root thing that Chris was talking about to do that.

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amichan said

Reggie said

Hmm, let me see if I can give a clearer example of my question:

Say I want to run 5 totally individual OCP sites with individual site-specific forums.

However, I want them to have a shared single board between them (NOT the enitre forum root itself, but just one section of it…). Is that possible??
 
  Do the keep forum root thing that Chris was talking about to do that.
 
Hmm, at the risk of being shouted at… (I actually didn't understand Chris's post all that well), I would guess that is a yes. :$


 





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Ooops did not mean to sound like I was shouting at you.
And it is a yes.
I really am not sure how to explain it different but I will try and think of some thing and when I do I will post it, unless Chris posts first.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Oh b****r.

By having linked sites, does that mean members of one site can enter each and every site?


 





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yes as long as they share the same members database.
I my self when the none beta for 3.2 of ocPortal comes out will no longer be using this feature as I will no longer need it.
Although I might use it for an adult section that only adults have permission to, I am not sure yet though.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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So how do I share a forum but have different member-databases??

 





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That would not work but you could set up different permission for each site.

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Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh…. :'(

Hmm… Back to the design board for me…

 





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 Hmm, thats good. Uninstalled the second installation but it left the shared database intact (I think - can still use the first site).

Then I just deleted the entire domain rather than the individual files… :lol:

This is a bit of a blow… :( I misunderstood some of the concepts of site linking.

Anyone have any suggestions? I was trying to get seven unique sites with unique memberships and usergroups and information, yet an ability to share a forum. Should I just set up an external forum then?? :(

 





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Hi,

I'm not sure I understand.

I'll make an example and ask some questions about it…

Let's say you have two site's, A and B, and a forum C.

Does C allow login's from both A and B members, or is there a third set of members just for C?

If there's a third set of members, how does the sharing require anything special? Is it that you want the forum to be accessible from separate locations, as if it were integrated into both sites A and B?


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Sorry, clarity is not my strong point sometimes.

I was looking to have 2 (or more) sites - say A, B and C.

Each has a spearate community and member base with private separate site access and forums EXCEPT for one shared forum board. So although a member of site A can post in the communal forum shared by B & C, he cannot access the actual site of B & C.

What I discovered by linking is that usergroups etc all become universal on all of the sites. I am expecting to have a lot of usergroups per site - another reason for trying to break the site down into many sites rather than one huge unwieldy one. Usergroups will vary from site to site. This is why I am still going for a multi-site set-up for ease of control, organisation and management rather than one big site.

I mistakenly thought I could make a crossover access in the forum without duplicating the rest of the site features (ie usergroups and membership). It is not a major issue as such, it just means I need to rethink my design strategy and overall structure as this communal forum ('portal' of you like) was going to be a key feature.

So: What I wanted to set up was A, B and C to all retain independent OCP sites, with just a single 'communal' point - a joint forum.




 

 





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I am with Chris here.
Linking ocPortal installs makes only one set up members and only one forum, well using the example that Chris said you can have more then one.
One thing you can do if you want all 7 sites to have different members is to have one install before members and then have groups for the members and allow only 1 or 2 groups to allow 1 or more of those 7 sites.
Here is an example.
Have site F which is the forum and members site.
Then site 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 share all those members but only allow a the groups you want access to the sites you wish the to be able to be a member of.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Reggie said

Sorry, clarity is not my strong point sometimes.

I was looking to have 2 (or more) sites - say A, B and C.

Each has a spearate community and member base with private separate site access and forums EXCEPT for one shared forum board. So although a member of site A can post in the communal forum shared by B & C, he cannot access the actual site of B & C.

What I discovered by linking is that usergroups etc all become universal on all of the sites. I am expecting to have a lot of usergroups per site - another reason for trying to break the site down into many sites rather than one huge unwieldy one. Usergroups will vary from site to site. This is why I am still going for a multi-site set-up for ease of control, organisation and management rather than one big site.

I mistakenly thought I could make a crossover access in the forum without duplicating the rest of the site features (ie usergroups and membership). It is not a major issue as such, it just means I need to rethink my design strategy and overall structure as this communal forum ('portal' of you like) was going to be a key feature.

So: What I wanted to set up was A, B and C to all retain independent OCP sites, with just a single 'communal' point - a joint forum.




 
You can do that with the permission that I mentioned.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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amichan said

I am with Chris here.
Linking ocPortal installs makes only one set up members and only one forum, well using the example that Chris said you can have more then one.
One thing you can do if you want all 7 sites to have different members is to have one install before members and then have groups for the members and allow only 1 or 2 groups to allow 1 or more of those 7 sites.
Here is an example.
Have site F which is the forum and members site.
Then site 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 share all those members but only allow a the groups you want access to the sites you wish the to be able to be a member of.

 
I see what you are saying.

So I could make site 'F' in your example the central site - hosts the members and forums… *thinks out loud*

Is there any way of displaying user groups alphabetically when you press the 'groups' link?? :D




 





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That I am not sure but I assume you can.

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