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evaluating ocportal as possible software for a knowledge hub

I need to convert/migrate an older mambo based system to something a little newer and hopefully with a little more stability in terms of longevity.. I have looked at joomla, drupal, tikiwiki as well as ocportal.

Even though I was disappointed to find most posted ocportal themes not to work correctly or only partially with the current versions of ocportal, I was impressed with the features and invested some time including a lot of midnight oil, burning both ends of the candle, etc., to develop my own template.

After repeatedly scouring the posted ocportal documentation I am now wondering how to accomplish the following:
- I need to be able to present the same content (translated by humans NOT google) based on which language the visitor may choose..

- I deal with quite a bit of specialized vocabulary and mambo has a bot, which will autolink 'catalogued' terms to posted materials so that the visitor gets a popup on mouseover explaining the term. I need to be able to accomplish something similar without requiring posters to remember everything that is in the glossary. I.e. should be a system bot and not a question of the author having to remember everything that is entered in the glossary. Particularly as the glossary grows as well...
How can I accomplish something similar with ocportal? Or am I back to using joomla or tikiwiki?

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance,
Nils

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If you have multiple languages you can edit stuff when viewing under different languages and it'll work as a translation process. There's a side_language block for switching languages, or you can do it manually / theme it, knowing it works by putting &keep_lang=<CODE> onto the URL.

You could achieve your terms thingy via hot-text banners.


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Hello Chris,
thank you for your suggestions. I will spend some time to see how to make that work.

In mambo the terms were organized into a glossary and a mambot provided the 'note' mark for glossary documented terms. on mouse over a small window with explanation popped up. The writer did not have to know the glosssary terms by heart nor need enter any code into text in order to make this work. Excellent feature that I do need to re-create. You can have a look if you like at biogas.ca - which, by the way is the site I need to migrate.

I find ocportal to have an initially overwhelming assortment of options with a very steep learning curve in an arrangement and configuration somewhat counter to what I have been used to.

While I have gone through the documentation several times, I miss the wikipedia type embedded hyperlinks that might make reading more productive.

I therefore appreciate all help that will let me learn ocportal.

Thanks to ocportal's clear and documented CSS coding I was able to 'generate'  an initial theme and after some tweaking I had an interface that I like. - I do have trouble overriding the light grayblue color the system uses to produce its gradients. it dulls the colors. is there anyway to use a light yellow for example without gray?

A to me pleasing interface has been difficult in tiki since ITS css code is not as structured nor as well documented by a longshot.

Yet I still find myself looking back and forth between ocportal and tiki trying to decide which one will provide the better longterm solution. for now I have setup a local wampserver that lets me run the two side by side.

All experience(s) that might make my choice easier, I sincerely appreciate all input and help.

Thanks,
Nils
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In mambo the terms were organized into a glossary and a mambot provided the 'note' mark for glossary documented terms. on mouse over a small window with explanation popped up. The writer did not have to know the glosssary terms by heart nor need enter any code into text in order to make this work. Excellent feature that I do need to re-create. You can have a look if you like at biogas.ca - which, by the way is the site I need to migrate.

This is exactly what the banners thingy does. It's not "sold" as a glossary, but the effect is the same.

The thing about ocPortal is, people find it hard because they want to make hard sites with it ;). It can greatly simplify if you remove any unneeded bundled addons. There's always room for improvement, particularly in the area of documentation. It would also be nice to allow it to simplify down yet further.

If there's anything you prefer about tiki, please let us know. My view is that it probably has a lot of esoteric features, some of which may be useful and missing in ocPortal, but my understanding is that it is a not a well organised system, okay for sites with a captive audience, but not a good customer-facing/marketing tool. But obviously it'll have some pluses to you if you're considering it and I'm curious what they will be.


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Chris,

thank you very much for your answer. I will get back to you in a couple of days after working with wampserver.

Regards,
Nils
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