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I thought it was just on my site, but I just attached a screenshot of another ocp site and it too has this problem ..... how could it be fixed.

Problem:

When you click on an article title, the article post displays in full; however, the title of the article is broken down into 2 line --- why?!

This is so basic. Why would ocp do this? Why it not fixed?

Anyways....

How can I correct it. It makes it look like something is broken on the site.
Its not professional looking. I really think it should be fixed for next version of ocp.

I looked at MANY ocp site and they all have the same issue.
The attached screenshot is of another site, not mine - but i have same problem.

Please, how can I fix?

(ps: hey, I really appreciate the friendly help received so far. You guys are great!)

Im using ocPortal to create DisabilityForce.com - a place for disabled people (like me) to provide mutual support to each other, and in doing so, they are empowered to become more inclusive, successful, and contributing citizens in society. It is also for anyone who is supportive of the rights and pursuit of happiness of people with disabilities. So, on behalf of the 1.2 billion disabled people in the world, I humbly thank this community for all assistance received.
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Looking at your picture I would be suspect of CSS to rectify this issue. Seems Breadcrumb Nav is floating right so you could add clear:right; to screen_title class in CSS
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This is so basic. Why would ocp do this? Why it not fixed?

Please stay calm and respectful. You haven't paid a lot of money to us for ocPortal, and we haven't pushed it hard to you as a solution. Building DIY websites does require some time and patience.

It's not as straight-forward as you imply actually… every design needs a certain amount of tuning according to how things are going to be arranged. By default the breadcrumbs sit to the right of titles to save wasting space. However, if there are two panels, and fixed width is turned on, the space is not so plentiful. CSS is not very good at defining rules that adapt to different situations, so it doesn't know to shift the headline down rather than to break it into two (especially when floats are involved, it doesn't really compute negotiations between them for allocating space).

We'll make a change to global.css in the next patch release to try and remedy CSSs deficiencies, and that change will be:

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.screen_title {
   margin-top: 0.35em;
   margin-bottom: 0.8em;
   min-width: 300px;
   padding-bottom: 6px; /* For better alignment with breadcrumbs to the right */
}
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.screen_title {
   margin-top: 0.35em;
   margin-bottom: 0.8em;
   min-width: 300px;
   padding-bottom: 6px; /* For better alignment with breadcrumbs to the right */
   {+START,IF,{$CONFIG_OPTION,fixed_width}}
      overflow: hidden; /* No space for breadcrumbs so intentionally break away from adjacent floats */
   {+END}
}

As for why this was not already done – nobody had reported the problem until now. Now it has been reported, it has been resolved in under 8 hours, which is much better than the months or years other projects often would take.


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Chris Graham said

… As for why this was not already done – nobody had reported the problem until now …
Yes, I guess we should all 'share' the blame, but it was easier to adjust this in CSS without creating an issue.

I've been adjusting this since several earlier versions, so it never occurred to me that it might be of concern to others. My bad!

However, I took another look for cross-browser compat, and this is what I've noticed …



Looks like FF continues to be a PITA every time a new release is rolled out …!!

bummer


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Ah, thanks Fletch!

We'll do this instead then:

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.global_breadcrumbs {
   padding: 7px 0 0 0;
   {+START,IF,{$NOT,{$MOBILE}}}
      {+START,IF,{$CONFIG_OPTION,fixed_width}}
         text-align: {!en_right};
      {+END}
      {+START,IF,{$NOT,{$CONFIG_OPTION,fixed_width}}}
         float: {!en_right};
      {+END}
      margin-left: 0.5em;
   {+END}
}


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Chris Graham said

… We'll do this instead then:

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.global_breadcrumbs {
   padding: 7px 0 0 0;
   
Yes, thanks … that fixes if for FF.

As you can see below, I adjusted my 'padding' to suit my display, but that is only an indicator to other users that they should change things to suit themselves ..!!


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Fletch said

Looks like FF continues to be a PITA every time a new release is rolled out …!!

To be fair to Firefox, have you tried it in a more recent version?  You are using version 10 there while the most recent version is 15.  You don't indicate what version of Chrome you are using, but you do say you are using IE 9.  

That's almost like saying that IE6 continues to be a PITA every time a new release is rolled out.  Try it against a more recent version and it may solve your problem.  :)
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It happened on the most recent version, because I saw it too ;-).

Actually Firefox has improved a lot. I've seen problems with incorrect handling of this overflow behaviour on Firefox before, but it's a very subtle bug, personally I wouldn't shoot them for this one.

Plenty I would shoot them for though, given how much money they have and how much they misallocate it (in my view) :lol:.


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D-Train said

… have you tried it in a more recent version?
Thanks. Done!

In my defence …



… but that really isn't an excuse that I would wish to use!

 :thumbs:


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jprieto said

…(ps: hey, I really appreciate the friendly help received so far. You guys are great!)

I think this cms not only has left the others in the dust, but I doubt if anyone can come up with something better.

The more I use it, the more I'm in love with it.

I'm excited about it, and I want to do my part to make it even better. So far, due to my very limited know-how of it, I can only report what may appear to be a "bug" (althought I could be wrong, as I stated in a previous post in which I stated that the problems mostly lies on my not know how things work).

The way I express myself may sound insulting, but it is not. Or that Im but Im not. My lack of total grasp of the written word unables me to reflect my normal kidding around and friendly tone of voice.

That is why I placed a quote here, pointing out my acknowledgement of the unselfish way this community has been there for me in my early stage of the learning curve.

In another community, CodeIgniter, I once used all CAPS to emphasize a word …. oh boy! they bombarded me with warnings and insults just because they thought I was offending them. All I said was that their "blog tutorial is NOT reflective of their current version of their framework, by at least MANY years". And I was just asking if anyone would consider doing a NEW video tutorial.

Wow, they went balistic on me. LOL

Funny thing is I know first hand that they are so nice, so helpful, and so willing to go the extra mile for newbies like me. I learned it well because of their help.

But to this day I cant get them to understand that I love them all, I'm totally grateful for their help, and all I was doing is pointing out that if they do not update the one tutorial they push so hard (which is outdated by several years) that newbie may move on for lack of updated tutorial/s. No offense meant on my part.

I failed to express in writing how I'm all for them, and see them as my "home boys" and many times argued in their favor in other forums. Therefore, they took offense of my CAPS and suggestions, and to this day they get hostile if I show up there. That's so sad and unfortunate.

So to avoid misunderstanding also in this community, here is how I stand of ocPortal.

1. I love it.
2. I think there is nothing half as good as it
3. The more I use it, the more I love it
4. This community impressed greatly me with their FAST and FRIENDLY willingness to assist
5. I aim to contribute to it
6. I aim to help others too also
7. And Im sticking to it. Period.

So please bear that in mind, and take closer notice of my constant expression of gratitude, and please do NOT think I am here to offend

I am not here to "offend", but to "befriend"

(by the way, I used all CAPS just kidding around)

BACK TO MY POST:

I was just surprised that nobody reported it, or noticed that it dont look right

I looked and looked and everyone using the standard theme had the same issue. I searched this forum to find comments on it, and found nada.

So I heeded to the former invitation to do make report any possible bug, and so this post was born.

Sorry if I sounded upset (i was never near that), and sorry if I sounded offensive (I dont bite the hand that feeds me - if you guys are helping me, how in the world would I offend you?)

So, hopefully future version will have this resolved

And my message to visitors, or others new to this cms is …. dont even bother with the other cms, they are not, and will never be, as good as this one (and you can trust the word of one who is very critical of things!!)

And so, ONCE AGAIN thank you all for the quick assistance and resolution to the issue at hand.

I got to go now, I addicted to the world best cms!

May God shower you all with health and wealth.

Im using ocPortal to create DisabilityForce.com - a place for disabled people (like me) to provide mutual support to each other, and in doing so, they are empowered to become more inclusive, successful, and contributing citizens in society. It is also for anyone who is supportive of the rights and pursuit of happiness of people with disabilities. So, on behalf of the 1.2 billion disabled people in the world, I humbly thank this community for all assistance received.
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jprieto said


4. This community impressed greatly me with their FAST and FRIENDLY willingness to assist
What's with the CAPS???? Are you trying to insult us?? How dare you!!! lol Just kidding!
That was a very nice message to read. I agree with you that ocPortal is by far the best OpenSource CMS out there. Sometimes it is hard to understand someones intent when they write in the forums not only because there i sno room for tone inflection but also language barriers make some sentences that are translated very harsh in english. Chris and the ocPortal staff are amazingly patient of this where as some community members (like myself) may be less so. We may jump to ocP's defence prematurely if we think someones insulting it or the people behind it when (as you just pointed out) that may not be their intention. Anyway glad you found it, fell in love with it and are sticking to it!
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thanks for the comforting words
yet a little longer and i will learn this cms well

THANKS

as you can read from my signature
i really want my site to be stable tech speaking


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The way I express myself may sound insulting, but it is not. Or that Im but Im not. My lack of total grasp of the written word unables me to reflect my normal kidding around and friendly tone of voice.

Yeah don't worry, that happens to us all, me included. Emoticons help :upsidedown:. Anything from me pushing for a measured tone is just because sometimes people really do have tantrums, so if I see any sign, true or not, I try to keep everything calm in advance and set a standard and ensure people know they're listened to. As a result, and other people doing similar and being friendly, this is a very relaxed and helpful forum :).

Thanks for your kind words!

Often the little things are the last to get reported. People blame themselves, or think it not worth bringing up. It is, the details do matter!


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