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Shurley shum mishtake?

Have just installed and been playing around with version 4, RC2 or whatever it is.

Tried creating a test user. Seemed to work, though no sign of the welcome email. What baffles me is how come I, as someone simply logged in, have immediate access to something called "Admin Zone"????

If I click on "Guide", need to sign in. Click "Docs", need to sign in, even though already registered. But click "Content management" and I'm right in the admin zone and able to edit pages, ecommerce, everything?

Surely this is some kind of mistake?

Have tried fiddling with the permissions tree editor - it just plain doesn't work or do anything. Just shows it forever "connecting..."

Am I to presume then that "RC2" means "not ready for actual use"?

Mmm. To post this I clicked "preview". There was or is no preview, but IE7's status bar shows there's an error on the page, "unexpected call to method or property access".

This does not inspire confidence.

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Hi Nobby! Welcome aboard the ocPortal train! :thumbs:

The RC designation refers to "Release Candidate", almost ready, but not quite. So ocPortal version 4 is at second release candidate status.

Do you have Javascript blocked in IE7? Could you give us a little more information on your setup?

I too found the having the Admin Zone and Content Management Zone's seemingly exposed to all a little disconcerting at first, (I was a Joomla user and used to having a public frontend and admin backend), however, after digging deeper into OCP, I've now decided this is a great method for site management.

We'll need to work through the issues you are having with the permission tree editor as it is your friend. Once working, you'll find you can allow, deny, and hide access to the various parts of OCP.

Hang tight Mate, you won't be disappointed with OCP and will soon see that it's a fantastic package/platform to work with.

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Hi,

This isn't as bad as you're thinking.

Welcome mail - possibly you might have turned the mail confirmation off, as it looks like you were able to log in. 'Welcome mails' are a specific feature in ocPortal that you can set up, just there aren't by default.

Admin Zone - users don't actually have access to the Admin Zone, but you have indeed found a little bug. It's reporting 'Admin Zone' as the label when it should be reporting 'Content Management'. That'll be fixed. If you don't want users to have access to content management it can be turned off easily enough :).

"If I click on "Guide", need to sign in. Click "Docs", need to sign in, even though already registered" - Yes, this confirms you don't actually have access to these areas. If you look above the login box you'll see a little explanation that it is asking you to log in because you don't have access. The idea here is that maybe you have another username to use (it's a common security "best practice" for staff to use a less privileged username that admin for regular use).

"pages" - it won't let you actually edit a page. However, quite possibly the icon should not be showing so I'll review this.

"ecommerce" - I don't think you're actually seeing an eCommerce logo, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Permission tree editor - I believe we've found this bug and it'll be fixed in RC3, out very soon.

"There was or is no preview, but IE7's status bar shows there's an error on the page, "unexpected call to method or property access"." - I'll look into this.

Thanks for your feedback :).


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(preview problem on IE is confirmed - I've found a fix and this will be included in RC3)


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The ecommerce bit I referred to is the fact that someone simply registering with a user name and email can add or edit.. banners.

Sure, paid members I wouldn't mind some system whereby they could add their banner for approval but not someone who just wandered in with an email addy.

The permission tree editor thing just doesn't work at all, cannot do anything with it. I'm using IE7, haven't tried it with Firefox but I note in IE that if I double-click the "content management" thing in the tree editor it gives a 404 error, so I don't think changing browsers will help.

Regarding welcome email, I did set one up before "joining". I did not set the email confirmation thing as I recall it didn't work in a much earlier version I installed once before ;)

Do you have any idea when RC3 or even better version 4 final will be released?

Alternatively is there a way to debrand the current stable version freebies? One thing that has repeatedly put my off using the script is the sheer volume of work or cost involved in debranding, as the name or image or links seem to be everywhere. I'm in a competitive niche and don't overly want to advertise what software I'm using but right now don't have spare cash just to remove links n stuff.

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Sorry Soccerdad, didn't notice your reply as I just scrolled straight down. Yes I have Javascript enabled.

The editor loads, it just doesn't work.

You mentioned Joomla - what a pile of &^% that is!

I normally just build my own sites with plain html, maybe add a forum script. I'm now trying something rather adventerous and need more - but it has to be 100% stable if I'm charging people for it. I'll try 3.1 or whatever it is I guess…


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Hi :),

The ecommerce bit I referred to is the fact that someone simply registering with a user name and email can add or edit.. banners.

ocPortal targets a pretty wide audience, and certain kind of sites want things (in this case, it's ocPortal's hit-balanced banner network capability) whilst certain sites don't. Once RC3 is out you'll want to go through the permission tree editor and disable access to the CMS zone pages you don't want people to reach :).
Alternatively there is another way to set the permissions now if you want to. If you go to the permission tree editor and change 'tree' in the URL to say 'page', you'll reach an alternative interface that can set page permissions.

Regarding welcome email, I did set one up before "joining".

Ah right. You need to set up CRON on your server. For more information, please see the configuration tutorial.

Do you have any idea when RC3 or even better version 4 final will be released?

RC3 is within day(s).


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You mentioned Joomla - what a pile of &^% that is!

I normally just build my own sites with plain html, maybe add a forum script. I'm now trying something rather adventerous and need more - but it has to be 100% stable if I'm charging people for it. I'll try 3.1 or whatever it is I guess…

You clearly have a critical mind, which is excellent. So please do keep any feedback coming, it's very welcome and I promise you'll always receive a thought-out response from us!


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Hi Chris,

As you may have realised I'm the guy also pestering you by email. I need to have a stable version running in order for my codey peeps to figure out if they can intergrate my own software with it. I don't want them doing a lot of design and fiddling only to change my mind and choose a different community script.

For final polishing off I'll be using your services but the basics have to be in place and working, or at least confirmed as doable so my guys can start hashing out designs, layouts, menus etc.

So my question is, if I do what I am at this moment doing, downloading the stable older release - how much of a change to the core functions is there? More to the point would I then be able to upgrade to 4.0 without breaking anything if tied into the membership thing?

I'm probably not being very clear here… Is the membership system the same in 4.0 or are there major changes that would make developing for 3x impractical if moving to 4.0?

Is the 3x a 100% usable system, effectively bug free and if suitable could keep it if necessary or is 4.0 a newer version to get rid of bugs in 3x?

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And you didn't answer my question about debranding? :)


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Version 4 is a new version with new features mainly of which people requested and so not a bug fix version for 3x.

Version 4 is not yet stable but will be soon at least from what I have seen. A lot of bugs have been foudn in rc2 which I was told should be fixed in r3 and if no bugs or very few bugs are found in r3 then the stable version will be out at least I think so.

Hope that helps and no I am not a staff just trying to help answer a few questions. Chris should be around to answer the rest.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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You mentioned Joomla - what a pile of &^% that is!


Yes I would agree with you there. It looks like a very bloated article system with very few features and a lot of the features that come with ocPortal you have to pay for on Joomla.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Ah, I remember you Amichan! You were here the year before last or whenever it was I last grappled with OC. :)

While I have your attention, couple of questions for you - how does one change the color of the text on the automated logo - and/or where does one find the image used for said logo if one were to wish to change it?

I currently have 3x installed, if that helps.

Am guessing there's some CSS thingy or something to change the logo text color? Had the same confusion with RC2, can change the theme but the text remains stubbornly blue…


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OK have found the logo - now I just need to figure out how to produce one that blends in…


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OK, more questions. My logo looks lovely - but the emails are using the old one?

"Feedback" at the bottom - gives a page asking for feedback and stuff. Which is nice. But no feedback form of any kind? Do I have to enable it somewhere or is this some advanced anti-spam feature ;)

I also need to know how to change the menu headings. "Guide" and "Rules" don't really come under the heading of "features" - but CEDI does. Is it in some language file or CSS, a template, what?

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I think the way to change the logo in the email is use the debrand tool in the admin zone.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Well it's "my" logo in that it has my name on it but it's the old one from before I replaced it with my own image.

I'm guessing probably some cache thing..?

About subject headings, am currently downloading the whole site (used the zippy thing when installing) so that I can search the files, to find such things as subject heading text etc.

Ironic eh? Zippy thing to upload quickly, then have to dowload it all bit by bit. :$

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I think it gets the logo for the email some where other then the one it uses on the site.
Might be the same one it uses for the admin zone.

Any way I am trying to figure out how you know me then again I am a well known lady but I do not know every one who knows me.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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I just recognise the name and the enthusiasm when I tried OC once before :)

In the email it called the image "trimmed_logo.png" or something like that.

The actual site logo is now a jpeg, if that means anything.

About these menu header things..?


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Oh ok hmm I think you would have to change the email although I am unsure at this time how to do that.

I run http://otakuplayground.com and am hopping to make themes and other things for ocportal even though I no longer use it for otakuplayground.com I still love it and feel it could go far with the right help. It needs themes and needs people to advertise for it.
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Hey Nobby! When logged in to your OCP site as admin, you should see an edit link at the bottom of each menu. This will allow you to change the contents of the selected menu. (you can also get to the menu editor from the admin zone, structure link) To change menu titles, load up the main page and look for an edit link at the bottom. In the resulting page, click the edit button on any of the 3 panels. You can then edit the title of the menu from the resulting screen.

Hope this helps!

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