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Based on the information available at the HTML Improvements link in Google Webmaster Tools, there seems to be a significant improvement in a couple of areas. In less than 48 hours, I've seen "Duplicate meta-descriptions" and "Duplicate title tags" decrease from 616 and 512 to 387 and 338, respectively. However, in this same period, I have seen "Missing title tags" swell from 0 to 62. Something seems to be seriously broken with the title tag.

This is the list of the current missing title tags:
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That seems unlikely to be true. Have you manually checked one of them to see if there's a title tag there? May be it is some how optimising out what is there because it thinks it is duplicated?


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Chris Graham said

That seems unlikely to be true. Have you manually checked one of them to see if there's a title tag there? May be it is some how optimising out what is there because it thinks it is duplicated?

This is from the view source:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8"/>
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=9"/>
<title>Clown Face – JulianRitterCentral - A community site sharing the life and art of Julian Ritter</title>
<meta name="description" content=""Clown Face" is one one Julian Ritter's early clowns,painted in 1948 in Los Angeles, California."/>
<meta name="keywords" content="julian ritter,Clown Face,oil on masonite,10.5x8,1948,clown,happy,deep dell,rinconia,leo post,,artist,painter,clowns,nudes,landscapes,oil paintings,sailor,adventurer,voyage,lost at sea,Galilee,lifescapes,portraits,south pacific,california,santa  barbara,woodland hills,hollywood,los angeles,kula,hawaii"/>
<meta name="copyright" content="© JulianRitterCentral.com 2011-2012. All rights reserved."/>
<meta name="author" content="JulianRitterCentral - A community site sharing the life and art of Julian Ritter"/>

The title tag is there and I know that this title is not duplicated elsewhere unless it has something to do with choosing the wrong canonical URL.

I really don't know what to make of it  except that it is something that Google thinks is awry.

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I've posted a question over at Google Webmaster Tools. Maybe they can shed some light. It's odd because "duplicate meta-descriptions" and "duplicate title tags" are both coming down rather nicely, but I am suddenly getting all these "missing title tags" when the title tags have always been there (typically at 0 but occasionally at less than 5).

I am wondering if the issue is the result of the site being offline during the upgrade but I had CloudFlare in development mode which should have bypassed any cached data (although that data would have had the title tag).

Oh well, I am confused and hopefully someone will be able to figure out what is going on.

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I am wondering if the issue is the result of the site being offline during the upgrade but I had CloudFlare in development mode which should have bypassed any cached data (although that data would have had the title tag).

I was thinking similarly. I highly doubt ocPortal would not render a <title> tag as we have always been pretty obsessive about validating our code, and that tag is not optional. Our unit tests would pick up if any part of the system missed it.
So I wonder if either Google was getting something else at that time, or whether Google strips titles down. I'd also try the Google emulator tool they have to see what markup Google is getting.


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Chris Graham said

I was thinking similarly. I highly doubt ocPortal would not render a <title> tag as we have always been pretty obsessive about validating our code, and that tag is not optional. Our unit tests would pick up if any part of the system missed it.
So I wonder if either Google was getting something else at that time, or whether Google strips titles down. I'd also try the Google emulator tool they have to see what markup Google is getting.
I used the Fetch as Google feature in Webmaster Tools and the title tag is indeed there:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8"/>
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=9"/>
<title>Clown Face – JulianRitterCentral - A community site sharing the life and art of Julian Ritter</title>
<meta name="description" content=""Clown Face" is one one Julian Ritter's early clowns,painted in 1948 in Los Angeles, California."/>
<meta name="keywords" content="julian ritter,Clown Face,oil on masonite,10.5x8,1948,clown,happy,deep dell,rinconia,leo post,,artist,painter,clowns,nudes,landscapes,oil paintings,sailor,adventurer,voyage,lost at sea,Galilee,lifescapes,portraits,south pacific,california,santa  barbara,woodland hills,hollywood,los angeles,kula,hawaii"/>
<meta name="copyright" content="© JulianRitterCentral.com 2011-2012. All rights reserved."/>
<meta name="author" content="JulianRitterCentral - A community site sharing the life and art of Julian Ritter"/>

The number has not increased today (at least, not yet) so I am beginning to think that it happened when the site was being upgraded. It's rather strange since the site was closed, so I would expect a different error, if any.

I still have received no answers on my question at Google Help but that can often take days. Hopefully, this was just a one-off and the "issue" is not really an issue.

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It's rather strange since the site was closed, so I would expect a different error, if any.

Closed site is actually supposed to give an HTTP number that indicates as such, so Google shouldn't index it.


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Well, the "Missing title tag" count dropped to 15 today, so I am guessing that this had something to do with the site being closed (which still seems strange that they would land on this issue).

Both my duplicate meta-desciptions and duplicate title tags counts increased; this could again be the result of the numbers dropping while the site was closed or just one of Google's strange tarantellas as they are changing their algorithms.

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