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[Resolved (again)][Revisiting] [Resolved] Multiple Guests appearing as one under a single IP

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Chris, is there a setting somewhere that would cause all guests appearing in the "users online" list to appear as one under the same IP number?

Before upgrading I had about 20 guests online at any one time in different areas of the site. Several of those guests were spiders (mainly Google) working the site.

Since the upgrade to v8 I'm seeing only one guest online at a time. It seems all my guests are now appearing under the same IP. I think this is why I had such a difficult time last week banning a particular IP that belonged to a spammer. The spammer's IP just happened to be the one that was showing in the online list, but by the time I discovered it, the spammer had already moved on and every guest at that time was also appearing under that spammer's IP making it look like the spammer was still busy with my site.

The IP that is appearing now in the online user list last appeared in my access logs almost 20 hours ago.

Right now, the way the guests are appearing, it renders spammer detection half useless.

Steve
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I check my "users online" frequently (especially now as I try to test the spammer detection) and have not seen this issue. However, I am on 8.0.

Bob
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BobS said

I check my "users online" frequently (especially now as I try to test the spammer detection) and have not seen this issue. However, I am on 8.0.

Bob

Same here.

I'm not sure at which upgrade (8.0.0 or 8.0.1) this popped up since those upgrades happened  back to back within a few hours of each other.

Steve
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sholzy said

Same here.

I'm not sure at which upgrade (8.0.0 or 8.0.1) this popped up since those upgrades happened  back to back within a few hours of each other.
It will be nice when this gets rolled into an official release as it was a fairly involved issue which touched a surprising number of files.

Bob
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Concur.

Only ONE guest being identified, and only ONE location being shown.

v8.0.1

Take my advice. I'm not using it!

View my working ocPortal site (version 9.x.x) at Anglo-Indian Portal
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sholzy said

Chris, is there a setting somewhere that would cause all guests appearing in the "users online" list to appear as one under the same IP number?

Before upgrading I had about 20 guests online at any one time in different areas of the site. Several of those guests were spiders (mainly Google) working the site.

Since the upgrade to v8 I'm seeing only one guest online at a time. It seems all my guests are now appearing under the same IP. I think this is why I had such a difficult time last week banning a particular IP that belonged to a spammer. The spammer's IP just happened to be the one that was showing in the online list, but by the time I discovered it, the spammer had already moved on and every guest at that time was also appearing under that spammer's IP making it look like the spammer was still busy with my site.

The IP that is appearing now in the online user list last appeared in my access logs almost 20 hours ago.

Right now, the way the guests are appearing, it renders spammer detection half useless.
Update: It appears at least some guest IP's are getting caught by the spam detector. I wish I could see which areas they are in when they trigger the ban. I suspect its when they hit the login or join screens since that is what they need to do first to ply their trade.

Steve
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"Only onE guest being identified, and only onE location being shown."


Same here. I was keeping an eye on this and thought maybe some cache build up needing regenerating to restart the stats?

"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
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Yes, if you look at yourwebsite.com/index.php?page=onlinemembers

You get guest and yourself. 

"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
Mick Jagger, Rolling Stones: 1969~Let It Bleed Album 
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Captain Kirk said

"Only onE guest being identified, and only onE location being shown." Same here. I was keeping an eye on this and thought maybe some cache build up needing regenerating to restart the stats?

What version are you at?

Steve
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Try this:
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sources/users.php
» Download: users.php (21 Kb, 102 downloads so far)


I think disabling the "Enforce IP addresses for sessions" option relaxed session-recycling rules on the Guest account, when it should have only been for member accounts.


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WOOHOO!!! I have multiple guests again!

Sometimes you don't realize just how much you miss something or rely on it until it's gone or broken.

Thanks, Chris!  :thumbs:

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I may have spoken too soon.

Is this the intended behavior, individual entries for each hit? A few spiders crawling the site could generate a verrrry long list.

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Take #2…

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» Download: users.php (21 Kb, 103 downloads so far)


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Made the change and I'll report back soon since the spiders are still crawling.

Steve
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Now it's fixed!  :thumbs:

Steve
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